[3dognight]

Well how very DU of you. Start by calling names. If not prepared to discuss intellectually, maybe this isn't the place for you.

[Junior]

ID is not science. Creationism is not science. Evolution is science. Those who accept the validity of the former two and reject the validity of the latter in the face of overwhelming evidence (a mere smidge of which you would have seen on any crevo thread on this forum over the past seven years or so) is, by definition, a luddite.

Now, when the creationists and IDers can actually present data and evidence to SUPPORT their particular positions (and sniping away at evolution IS NOT data and evidence) then they might have a dog in this hunt. To date though we have yet to see any of it.

Do you have any positive evidence in support of ID or creationism? If you are simply going to snipe at evolution, I'll dismiss you out of hand as irrelevant.