Costs of Illegal Immigration to Texans[Senators Threaten Immigration Amendments to War Bill]

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[jpsb]

"I'm sure they don't mind the fact that they now have "

Cultures over run by migrating horde's never think it is a good thing and history teaches that often it is a very bad thing. For example the once Christan, western, enlighten middle east/north Africa was over run by Islam, and been a cesspool of humanity ever since. The once Romanized England was over run by Germans and that Island fell into the dark ages for over five hundred years.

I guess one could argue two categories. 1) A great civilization expanding and over running lessor civilizations/cultures and that is mostly good. Examples would be Roman civilization, or US/UK civilization. 2) A great civilization in decline being over run by lessor/inferior cultures. Examples would be fall of Rome, or Islamic culture replacing the declining Egyptian/Hellenistic culture of middle east/north Africa.

[HighFlier]

I knew you wouldn't answer the questions. Your positions are indefensible. Thanks for clearly that up for all to see who read this thread.

[o_zarkman44]

I disagree with your premise about illegals taking the jobs nobody wants.
We have too many citizen freeloaders on our tax doles getting welfare checks for doing nothing. Take those welfare checks away from the able bodied freeloaders who are pseudo-disabled, and suddenly those unwanted jobs will be in demand again. Most of those so called unwanted jobs are unwanted because too many people just don't want to work. Why work when our government sends a check and food stamps out every month?

Since when did certain jobs become too menial for Americans to perform?

[politicalwit]

"I disagree with your premise about illegals taking the jobs nobody wants."

Illegals take all types of jobs whether it be in agriculture, domestic, or carpentry. I'll agee that there are far too many folks out there that simply don't want to work. Many however find it more cost rewarding by not working. Eliminate the freebies, increase wages to something livable (market wages among legal residents) and the illegal problem should go away for the most part.

[o_zarkman44]

If a person is hungry enough and has no public dole to support them it shouldn't matter what kind of wage is paid. It is obvious that the illegals are happy to recieve the wages they get for those jobs that are now too good for Americans to perform. The illegals being willing to work for whatever they can get only lowers the wages of American citizens who do work in competing jobs.

We cannot allow this watering down effect on our standard of living. And the fact remains that those illegal immigrants are law breakers and are also degrading the quality of law enforcement because bureaucrats are overlooking them as law breakers and looking at them as new tax revenue. But the revenue will never materialize if they all end up getting free health care and public assistance. Unless us working people get tapped for more taxes which is already evident. Holding the American taxpayer hostage because somebody wants cheap undocumented workers is not conducive to economic progress.