Costs of Illegal Immigration to Texans[Senators Threaten Immigration Amendments to War Bill]

FAIR ^ | April 2005 | FAIR

[mthom]

Let me get this straight. Youre both pro illegal immigration AND pro welfare state? What a conservative you are.

[spodefly]

How sad. Actually, he was not hear illegally. The question in that case was whether his relatives could apply on his behalf for asylum, rather than his surviving father. The state court made a 'family court' decision and said yes. That ruling was overturned by the federal court. It's scary how often I see your side in the same camp with Hillary and Reno.

First of all, I am not sure what "hear illegally" is ... is that like listening to copyrighted MP3's you downloaded?

Secondly, I said plainly stated (for non-baiting/non retards, that is) that I was unfamiliar with the specifics of that case but that I was aware that granting asylum petitions for people from Cuba was established as precedent. So this means that I am not on anyones side in this matter, other than the ones set by precedent.

Thirdly, I suspect that, like the other thread baiting morons "on your side" that you "see" exactly what you want to see to try to push your ridiculous agenda, which, based on what I "hear" and "see" in this thread is the destruction of the United States through uncontrolled illegal immigration.

[Boot Hill]

"It's whether a state can discriminate based on one's immigration status that is at issue. Clearly, a state may not. See article 1 section 8."

LOL, you must mean Article I, Section 8 of the Mexican Constitution, because that section of the U.S. Constitution only specifies the powers of Congress (e.g., rules on naturalization, in relevant example) and says nothing whatsoever about what states may or may not do in regards to criminal aliens!

(Is it just my perception, or have the educational eligibility requirements for CAL's fallen dramatically again?)

--Boot Hill

[judgeandjury]

Have you turned yourself in every time you exceeded the speed limit?

There are two types of speed limits used in the United States: Absolute speed limits and prima facie speed limits. In states with prima facie speed limits, you can actually be caught driving faster than the posted speed limit, but if you can show that you were driving safely and presented no danger to other drivers, such as on a lonely stretch of highway, you can many times avoid being fined for that violation. I sometimes drive a little faster than the posted speed limit, but most police/highway patrol officers won't even pay you any attention unless you're going at least 5 MPH (in the city) or 10 MPH (on the highway) above the posted speed limit.

[ClintonBeGone]

Thirdly, I suspect that, like the other thread baiting morons "on your side"

Listen, lets knock off the name calling. If you're not civilized enough to have a polite conversation with someone, what are you doing here?

[ClintonBeGone]

Acceptance of the welfare state is true conservative dogma?

Where did I or anyone suggest that?

[TexConfederate1861]

It seems to me, that you would give the whole D*MN country to Mexico, if you had your way! How can you discriminate against a person that doesn't even have the right to be in this country?!

Or maybe this issue is hitting a little closer to home than you would care to admit?

hmmmmmmm?

[jpsb]

"If you live in Texas, you're a Texan"

LOL, don't tell real Texans that, it would be bad for your health.

And there is nothing in the constitution that forbids states from declining to provide higher education to foreign nationals or charging them more for said education. Nothing what so ever. Or founding father were not insane and believed that America belongs to Americans not the world as you obviously do.

[jpsb]

"This is actually a redundant statement. The conservative approach favors the right to live where you want"

Wrong, conservative means to conserve. Letting the world migrate to the USA would mean the end of the USA which is not conserving the USA or conservative. You are a troll, a disrupter and I look forward to you being sent back to DU where you belong.

[american spirit]

What about the ones mixed in with the workers that are here to rape ,rob, murder, deal drugs, carrying diseases, etc?

[ClintonBeGone]

What about the ones mixed in with the workers that are here to rape ,rob, murder, deal drugs, carrying diseases, etc?

There are more citizens with those issues than immigrants.

[ClintonBeGone]

Letting the world migrate to the USA would mean the end of the USA which is not conserving the USA or conservative.

Isn't that how this country started?

[ClintonBeGone]

And there is nothing in the constitution that forbids states from declining to provide higher education to foreign nationals or charging them more for said education.

Yes there is, and it's been repeatedly cited in this thread, along with the court cases that amplify it.

[azhenfud]

Where is that?

Can you repeat, "We, the people of the United States...."

[blackie]

Stop the foreign invasion ~ NOW!

Be Ever Vigilant!

[azhenfud]

You're a gas!

"Even if the estimated tax contributions of illegal immigrant workers are subtracted..."

Why do they fail to include the economic benefit these people provide?"

Looks like that benefit has been factored in to a defecit of $3.7 billion annually.

Reading is fundamental.

[blackie]

Stop the foreign invasion ~ NOW!

Be Ever Vigilant!

[azhenfud]

"Should Elian have been allowed to stay in this country?"

IMO, no. Gonzales was a minor with a living parent who had legal rights to his custody. Whether one agrees with the politiocity of Cuba or China, legal rights of parents to the custody of their own children should be foremost a non-negotiable, universal freedom.

[ClintonBeGone]

Looks like that benefit has been factored in to a defecit of $3.7 billion annually.

Actually it hasn't. If you read the article, you'll see they've only credited tax revenue.

[ClintonBeGone]

Whether one agrees with the politiocity of Cuba or China, legal rights of parents to the custody of their own children should be foremost a non-negotiable, universal freedom.

Yes, so says you and Janet Reno. Too bad even Fidel disagrees.