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1000's of Children in Ho Chi Minh City with Bird Flu Symptoms
Recombinomics Commentary ^ | April 11, 2005 | Recombinomics

Posted on 04/11/2005 1:04:09 PM PDT by Diogenesis

1000's of Children in Ho Chi Minh City with Bird Flu Symptoms


Hospitals in Ho Chi Minh City have been filled with thousands of children who have caught respiratory and digestive illnesses due to the hot weather.
Pediatric Hospital I reported that it had examined nearly 4,000 children patients a day with some 85 per cent of them suffering from respiratory problems, said a hospital doctor.
Meanwhile, more than 3,000 children were brought into Pediatric Hospital II on Monday. One-third of the children had respiratory problems and 300 others had digestive problems.
Besides, many children have been hospitalized for brain diseases caused by the entero virus.
The major reason behind the illnesses is that children are sleeping all night with fans on due to the hot weather in recent days.

Recombinomics Commentary: The deafening dearth of data in Vietnam may have ended.
The number of children alone would be cause for concern, but large numbers of patients with respiratory and digestive illness and "brain diseases". in
Vietnam ring alarm bells very loudly.

Serious H5N1 testing is indicated, although results from Quang Binh, Haiphong, and Quang Ninh have not been reported.

Bird flu monitoring in Vietnam is well beyond scandalous.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: birdflu; callcolonelsanders; cockadoodledoo; h5n1; hotwings; outbreak; theskyisfalling; vietnam
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To: takbodan
If the queen had balls, she's be king.

This Queen had Balls but couldn't be King.


81 posted on 04/11/2005 3:08:12 PM PDT by Major_Risktaker
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To: usafsk

No one said Marburg is airborn. On the other hand it has a 21 day latency period. You might already have it and not know it!


82 posted on 04/11/2005 3:08:33 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Major_Risktaker

Wait a minute, are you saying Liberace was gay? Say it ain't so.


83 posted on 04/11/2005 3:09:02 PM PDT by dfwgator (Minutemen: Just doing the jobs that American politicians won't do.)
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To: muawiyah

That's something we can agree on. Natural immunity will be a highly sought after inherited trait in the post-pandemic world. Healthy, wealthy, and wise indeed.


84 posted on 04/11/2005 3:09:42 PM PDT by usafsk ((Know what you're talking about before you dance the QWERTY waltz))
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To: usafsk

By taking anti-virals you are admitting the seriousness of the event while attempting to demean others who are talking of taking active measures to prepare as well. Being informed or the progress of this disease as it continually mutates is part of the preparation.

If this - or Marburg (or both)- goes worldwide, there won't be anything of value except staying alive. Yes, I've spent some time at the source page of this article (last night), and find them to be more forthcoming with info than the WHO or CDC who have definite agendas in keeping the public misinformed (read quiet).

I've posted a lot of info as of late on H5N1, and always run into someone who is far more content to bury their head in the sand than to face the possibility that a virus may just sweep the table clean. The similarities between this outbreak(s) and The Stand are quite striking. Including the possibility that this is a pathogen that escaped from some nation's biowarfare lab.


85 posted on 04/11/2005 3:10:49 PM PDT by datura (Fix bayonets.)
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To: muawiyah

I'm too weak to reply. I've been feeling ill, but it can't be Marburg. It's been weeks since I shared that cab with the CDC doctor at Hartsfield airport. Now he had a nasty, wheezy cough.


86 posted on 04/11/2005 3:12:14 PM PDT by usafsk ((Know what you're talking about before you dance the QWERTY waltz))
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To: usafsk
It was the cute baby in the buggy ~ he gurgled and the sputum infected you with typhoid fever.

Your mother took care of that years ago when you got your shots ~ or did she?

How do any of us know our mothers really did get us our shots?

87 posted on 04/11/2005 3:15:47 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: dfwgator
Do you think something like this would have occurred in a Democratic Vietnam that wasn't ruled by those Commie crackpots?

I think they have bird flu in Thailand.

88 posted on 04/11/2005 3:16:41 PM PDT by Doe Eyes
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To: takbodan
I use paper towels on bathroom faucets, door handles and as inconspicuously as possible in other places. After Viet Nam and Latin America, I have a phobia about hygiene.
89 posted on 04/11/2005 3:16:59 PM PDT by unkus
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To: usafsk

I fear bear attacks in my yard at night. The lions here are more attracted to my neighbor's kids than my dog, so at least I have bait for them.

Staying out of the willows while hiking is like taking Tamiflu once this hits our shores. Agreed?


90 posted on 04/11/2005 3:17:23 PM PDT by datura (Fix bayonets.)
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To: Walkin Man
With jet air transport there is no buffer in this entire world anymore. Sorry.

Both Singapore and Hong Kong screen incoming passengers with IR camera's to detect those with fevers. We, in the US, could do the same. Why admit sick people?

91 posted on 04/11/2005 3:20:23 PM PDT by Doe Eyes
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To: datura

Are your shades down!?!? How can I have a reasonable dialogue with someone who asserts that a patent-hyping website owner is more reasonable than the CDC. Yup, just more government types hiding the pandemic from the masses so they can what? Prevent panic? Well, everyone will panic once they start dying. So what is this secret hidden CDC agenda? Never seems to make sense.

I'm not, by the way, taking anti-virals at this time. My question was whether I could, if I got sick with some other non-Marburg, non-bird flu illness, take an anti-viral. Would it be hypocritical, in your opinion, to treat myself for non-pandemic things?

And by "this", what do you mean? The common respiratory infections noted in the source article that are common in SE Asia during this time of year, or the "bird flu" that the post hypes but which is not the cause of the hospitalizations? You're reading the post but not the article he is manipulating for his own purposes.

And you top off your argument by referring to this looming pandemic as exactly like The Stand. Hey, San Francisco looks a lot like Sodom, but I haven't seen any destruction yet. Besides, if I die from this pandemic couldn't my family bury me in the woods over the dead fall, like in Pet Cemetary?


92 posted on 04/11/2005 3:22:20 PM PDT by usafsk ((Know what you're talking about before you dance the QWERTY waltz))
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To: muawiyah

She's right here, let me ask her....Swears she did, but I might need to hook her up to the polygraph just in case. By the way, for the realities of early 20th century health care, read The Cruelest Miles. Details the Nome diptheria epidemic and the dog sledders who brought the antidote. Great story.


93 posted on 04/11/2005 3:25:08 PM PDT by usafsk ((Know what you're talking about before you dance the QWERTY waltz))
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To: Scythian
"We are less than two years away from a massive pandemic, my guess is 40% of the worlds population is going to perish soon."

People already accuse me of being a hermit. If this 'stuff' comes to the US, well, no-one will see me except my dogs. (BTW, can dogs get it?).

94 posted on 04/11/2005 3:35:11 PM PDT by blam
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To: conservativeinferno
If worse came to worse, we could quarantine our nation. Still think a virus could travel trans-ocean w/o a human carrier?

In this day and age of PC, an effective quarantine would be impossible. They tried it in 1918, and it only worked in limited cases. Today the ACLU would be locking the doctors up for "false imprisonment" in a day.

It all changed with AIDS. Once a disease gets its own lobbying group, any chance of a quarantine is gone.

95 posted on 04/11/2005 3:35:28 PM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: takbodan
You folks are way too excited about this. Many of you probably still have basements full of MRE's from the Y2K hubbub.

You know,I got a lot of camping stuff for cheap in Jan. 2000! So the Y2k wasn't all bad. Besides, I always need an excuse for buying ammo.

96 posted on 04/11/2005 3:38:32 PM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: 3dognight

At least silver coinage was self disinfecting...


97 posted on 04/11/2005 3:40:09 PM PDT by Axenolith (The 23rd Century will be here sooner than you think...)
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To: dmz
It happens easier under communism because communism blows...
98 posted on 04/11/2005 3:42:33 PM PDT by Axenolith (The 23rd Century will be here sooner than you think...)
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To: Diogenesis
Be wary, the source is somewhat an alarmist. Not to dismiss bird flu, though. People really need to start paying more attention to it.
99 posted on 04/11/2005 3:43:53 PM PDT by Termite_Commander (Warning: Cynical Right-winger Ahead)
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To: NRA2BFree

"That was during the time the huge crowds were in Italy for the Pope's funeral."

Sadly and tragically ironic if this becomes JPII's legacy. I can imagine all the fruit cakes spinning that into devilish tales.


100 posted on 04/11/2005 3:47:43 PM PDT by IamConservative (To worry is to misuse your imagination.)
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