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China's container ship fleet and Taiwan's security (MUST READ, chinese sneak attack?)
The American Thinker ^ | April 11th, 2005 | Frederick W. Stakelbeck, Jr.

Posted on 04/11/2005 10:43:31 AM PDT by CitadelArmyJag

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To: Rebelbase
In my Dragon's Fury Series they made alterations to create jump jet carriers, missile launchers, and amphibious assault ships.
21 posted on 04/11/2005 11:05:13 AM PDT by Jeff Head (www.dragonsfuryseries.com)
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To: CitadelArmyJag

Hmmm....I guess these container ships will be armored and travel in battle groups while they ply the mecantile waterways of the world?

Any chinese container ship that leaves a port without a load is probably up to no good.

And for all you ship designers out there, how do you design a ship that is both a competent commercial craft and a robust naval vessel?

Seems to me that the Anglosphere was the most competent at this sort of thing viz the massive convoy fleets of WWII. Unless the Chinese have made some sort of amazing maritime discovery, I don't think this scenario is realistic.


22 posted on 04/11/2005 11:06:21 AM PDT by telebob
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To: DTogo

don't forget Japan. They know this enemy well. If they have not got an effective and constitutional antidote for the PRC now, I bet they could have one by tomorrow afternoon by assembling the components.


23 posted on 04/11/2005 11:07:24 AM PDT by epluribus_2
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To: evilthatmendo

Now listen here, I will snub my nose at China up front and buy the dancing Santa from Walmart on the back end. I want my cake and I will eat it too.


24 posted on 04/11/2005 11:08:27 AM PDT by Waterleak (I pity the fool)
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To: the gillman@blacklagoon.com

I don't think the Chinese aspirations are that great yet, but this Taiwan thing is getting more and more ominous. At present, our military is better than theirs but the economic fall out that would happen if relations between the two countries got totally antagonistic would be horrendous. Would China pull out it's assets in the American stock market? Would the US pull out economically from China. Somehow I fear that we have more to lose than they do.


25 posted on 04/11/2005 11:13:40 AM PDT by brooklyn dave
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To: Waterleak
Doesn't matter if we don't have guts to act, or we're too distracted to have the resources to respond.
Imagine a Democrat having to order an anti-shipping strike guaranteed to kill 50k Chinese troops. Ya think he'd really do it?
And how would the PRC respond? Nuke LA?
And what if North Korea blew up at the same time?

The PRC may be playing a better game than we are.
26 posted on 04/11/2005 11:14:02 AM PDT by Little Ray (I'm a reactionary, hirsute, gun-owning, knuckle dragging, Christian Neanderthal and proud of it!)
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To: astounded
Taiwan could announce a national policy that each container ship from Red China must heave-to 10 miles offshore to take on a Taiwanese harbor pilot

Ummm... moot point. Chinese ships are not allowed within Taiwan waters. Good luck to any container ship trying to even get close. Not going to happen.

27 posted on 04/11/2005 11:15:53 AM PDT by killjoy (Real Men Love Bush)
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To: CitadelArmyJag

And to think that Old Europe wants to lift the military trade ban with the Chinese...
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The self-serving wanna-bes leading the EU, will do anything to save the EU, financially and politically...we already saw that in Iraq (throw in Iran and Lybia too)...


28 posted on 04/11/2005 11:16:43 AM PDT by EagleUSA (Q)
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To: Little Ray

That's just what those in charge want you to think so we can have another cold war. So buddies at the big defense contractors can line pockets. There is usually more sides to a story than one or two, especially when dealing with Asian governments (Vietnam?).


29 posted on 04/11/2005 11:17:21 AM PDT by Waterleak (I pity the fool)
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To: Waterleak

I'd rather overestimate an enemy and never have to go to war, than underestimate him and have to play catch-up with missiles flyin' and bombs fallin'.


30 posted on 04/11/2005 11:20:14 AM PDT by Little Ray (I'm a reactionary, hirsute, gun-owning, knuckle dragging, Christian Neanderthal and proud of it!)
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To: Thud

For your information


31 posted on 04/11/2005 11:23:52 AM PDT by Dark Wing
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To: brooklyn dave

They have the next century of progessing to a superpower to lose, we would lose hundreds of thousands but remain #1.


32 posted on 04/11/2005 11:28:10 AM PDT by ruiner
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To: CitadelArmyJag

If the Chinese ships are anything like normal container ship, they will not be set up to offload themselves; no cranes. If they must rely on port facilities to unload their cargo, the defense is simple: sabotage the port cranes.

There should be plenty of warning of an impending 'container ship' attack to blow the footings or disable the cranes in some other way. Imagine all that Chinese armor with no way to get off the boat.

Bummer...


33 posted on 04/11/2005 11:28:13 AM PDT by telebob
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To: CitadelArmyJag

China should understand that these container ships would make great coral reefs.


34 posted on 04/11/2005 11:29:48 AM PDT by reagan_fanatic ("Darwinism is a belief in the meaninglessness of existence" - R. Kirk)
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To: CitadelArmyJag

Bulls-eye. Good post


35 posted on 04/11/2005 11:30:43 AM PDT by Bald Eagle777 (...Charles LaBella Memo? Let the Dems run from this one...)
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To: reagan_fanatic

All the calcium locked up inside would make a great start for a coral reef.


36 posted on 04/11/2005 11:33:42 AM PDT by Waterleak (I pity the fool)
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To: Jeff Head

I hope and trust you are 100% recovered.

I said a prayer for you. Keep on FREEPing on!

Rock on brotha'! God Bless.

Keep up the good work!


37 posted on 04/11/2005 11:35:43 AM PDT by Bald Eagle777 (...Charles LaBella Memo? Let the Dems run from this one...)
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To: Bald Eagle777

Recovery has been slow. They found some infections on Thursday and there's been some bleeding over the weekend. I am back to the doctor this afternoon now. Oh well, gotta keep pluggin. Thanks so much for the prayers!


38 posted on 04/11/2005 11:43:35 AM PDT by Jeff Head (www.dragonsfuryseries.com)
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To: Dark Wing

Ludicrous


39 posted on 04/11/2005 11:54:03 AM PDT by Thud
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To: CitadelArmyJag




A Type 072-II landing ship presenting its amphibious lift capability
40 posted on 04/11/2005 11:57:40 AM PDT by andyk
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