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To: Liberal Classic
The sole purpose of "intelligent design" is to torpedo the scientific concept of evolution because some people believe that evolution contradicts their religious faith.

Not sure I agree with the above statement. I do see, however, many evo's trying to torpedo ID.
ID is interesting because it can account for primary forms, which evo cannot. Why is it not possible that evo IS the intelligent design? Right along with the laws of thermodynamics, or gravity, or mathematical constants?
Obviously the universe operates under a strict system of rules or laws.....where did they come from? At least ID has an answer.

253 posted on 04/11/2005 2:21:31 PM PDT by Ignatz (Evolution IS intelligent design!)
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To: Ignatz
"Obviously the universe operates under a strict system of rules or laws.....where did they come from? At least ID has an answer."

What's the answer?

255 posted on 04/11/2005 2:23:49 PM PDT by atlaw
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To: Ignatz
ID is interesting because it can account for primary forms, which evo cannot.

It is more correct to say that evolution does not address origins. It addresses the variety of life we see today as well as forensic evidence of past life forms. It does not attempt to answer how life began, only that once it had begun how life changes over time.

Why is it not possible that evo IS the intelligent design? Right along with the laws of thermodynamics, or gravity, or mathematical constants?

This is a very interesting speculation, of course, and the subject of many thought experiments. One could make the same sort of conjecture about gravity or any process we observe in nature.

There is nothing wrong with making this supposition. My point is simply that this is not science's purpose. The purpose of science is to describe the physical world in concrete terms, such that we may make predictions based on earlier observations. Take for example Einstein's theory of special relativity. For the longest time there was no known practical application of Einstein's theory. However, today the system of global positioning system satellites makes direct use of Einstein's predictions. Each satellite contains a very accurate atomic clock, and receiver units calculate position based on the time discrepancies in the signals received from several satellites. Einstein's theory of special relativity does not seek to answer why there is this 'time dilation' effect. One could postulate it is because the Creator made it this way. But again, this is a metaphysical question, not a scientific one.

Obviously the universe operates under a strict system of rules or laws.....where did they come from? At least ID has an answer.

Sure, much the same can be said about cosmology. The study of astronomy and cosmology doesn't answer the really big metaphysical question of where the universe came from, just as evolutionary theory doesn't answer the really big metaphysical question of why did life come about. This is not their purpose.

It is this misunderstanding which causes religion and science to be painted as being in some sort of opposition, when they're really not.

288 posted on 04/11/2005 2:57:48 PM PDT by Liberal Classic (No better friend, no worse enemy. Semper Fi.)
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