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To: AntiGuv
That (God can be pure good and still create the potential for evil in the universe) is an article of faith. It does not follow from reason.

The inverse certainly does not follow from reason. The inverse says that any God that would create you is evil. I for one am grateful that He created me and do not blame him for my bad choices, even though He gave me the freedom to choose.

"Free will is not absolute, and so if it was created, it had limits forced upon it."

Free will does indeed have limits. So what? You are arguing that anything less than absolute lack of freedom to choose evil, is itself evil. You are arguing for your own destruction. If that's what you want to do, so be it. But leave me out of your argument. I believe God was good for creating me, not evil. I'm thankful that He created me.

For that matter, I'm thankful that He created you too. Heaven might end up without an AntiGuv in it. But at least AntiGuv was given the chance.

244 posted on 04/11/2005 2:12:30 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: DannyTN
The inverse certainly does not follow from reason. The inverse says that any God that would create you is evil.

Well, I didn't make the inverse statement. You did. LOL

The rest of your comments are articles of faith; not statements of reason. Nor do they rationally follow from one to the next through to the end, but I don't have any more time for this thread.

I said that arguments for the existence of gods are either irrational or irrelevant (for practical purposes - because one cannot draw definite conclusions). Nothing I've seen here has indicated otherwise. To say that is not to say that assuming that god exists, having for whatever reason accepted some such irrational or irrelevant argument, it is irrational to follow his commandments.

In other words, you are arguing against a position that I have not taken (a straw man) which is: It is irrational to obey god. I have never made that stupid statement, nor would I.

Now, I've got to bid you adieu for now. See ya around!

254 posted on 04/11/2005 2:22:35 PM PDT by AntiGuv (™)
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