[tacticalogic]

And they won't work if DNS/SPF listed the valid outbound IPs for a domain.

I meant from the corp's own mailserver.

Yes, but many people in mgmt do not care to use them :)

I find they warm up to the idea quite nicely when it's the only way their email is going to get delivered :).

[dfrussell]

I meant from the corp's own mailserver.

OK... but my point was the exact opposite.

I find they warm up to the idea quite nicely when it's the only way their email is going to get delivered :).

The company owns the relays and irrespective of what the techs think, mgmt makes the decisions.

Without prior mgmt agreement, this is probably grounds for termination, and I'm rather fond of being paid :)