[Travis McGee]

Do you have windows, doors and locks on your house?

Why bother?

Thieves can pick locks, jimmy windows, etc.

The point is, an effective fence is part of an overall border defense, allowing the same number of Border Patrolmen to be more effective at keeping illegals OUT, rather than trying to find them all over the canyons and hills, after they have walked IN.

Do you think Israel is stupidly wasting money, building security fences? That would be big news in Israel.

I think they would laugh out loud at you, if you held up our border defenses as an example of how to keep intruders out.

"Other plans" my Aunt Sally. The "other plan" is the present asinine "catch and release" program, which gives a crosser an 80% chance of success on one try, a 96% chance on two tries, and a 99% chance by his third try.

[Wiz]

Do you think Israel is stupidly wasting money, building security fences? That would be big news in Israel.

I can talk about security issues and better solutions but I won't go in depth. However, not until recent years Israel has engaged in other methods as well other than the fence itself. Even some of the Israeli political parties criticized that one can dig under the fences. DHS was much more smart and knew the weakpoints of the fences itself. Once again, what is the merit of a fence that you can dig under and climb over with a ladder? I won't say fence will do nothing but there is something more useful than fences. DHS knew those weakpoints and are doing way better than Israel. Not everything you see are representing the realitiy. If you think those pics comparing Israel and America are representing the security awareness, you are wrong. Once again, I will not go further in depth to talk about those security measures so please don't ask.

[Wiz]

Do you have windows, doors and locks on your house?

You can break a window, break a door, and pick on locks. It does not guarantee 100% security. You can also climb over and dig under fences of the border. I can name better solutions but again, those will not be discussed. Loose lips sinks ships.