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To: bvw

>
> Another analogy -- and a proper one -- is to that which gave
> Nuremburg its authority. And that which the courts at
> Nuremburg properly declared to the world and history: That
> obedience to process is no excuse for murder.
>

That makes sense.

My criticism of this article is that it is overloaded. If it were split into two (one on what you stated, and another on our history/constitution/14th amendment) it would be much more palatable for discussion.


28 posted on 04/11/2005 9:47:40 AM PDT by kpp_kpp
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To: kpp_kpp
Split? The two things -- Nuremberg and the Declaration of Independence -- derive their authority from the the same source. The inalienable rights of man, granted each and every man by our Creator. In the original Constitution, prior even to the Bill of Rights, these inalienable rights were asuumed, they were part and parcel of common law -- see Blackstone -- and considered intrinsic to the preamble's phrases "establish Justice, [] promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity". Each of those has a specific meaning in what the "due" of due process is all about.

Is it "Just" for a State to order the murder of an innocent? No! Thus even prior to the 14th Amendment, even prior to the BOR, the Constitution the Federal Authority, the courts and the executive had a duty to prevent the usurptation by a State of each innocent person's inalienable rights -- to life, to liberty, to property.

The Natural Rights of Man -- to life -- are the basis of Nuremberg as well as is the Declaration, these Rights are universal, timeless, placeless -- beyond and immune to the limited reach of politics, of national policy, of popular zeitgeist.

Yet the American Judges, probably learning more greek and latin than hebrew came to take prefection of the process of law as their judicial motive, instead of the hebrew idea of perfecting man toward Divine purpose as the core judicial motive.

And there too -- Nuremberg. Over two hundred years the American Judges came to slay the hebrew concepts of Liberty, Life, Divine Purpose set down in what Moses wrote. The Judges did so by being ignorant of that hebrew, and in some cases pervertedly rude to it. Instead they took in the greek's love of perfected beauty, and the roman love of order uber alles. So curtly learned and prideful, the Judges crushed the root of our founding. By that mass slaughter of hebrew ideals by means of case law, stare decisis.

Before the Nazi's slaughtered Jews, we Americans were already slaughtering our inheritance of Jewish Ideals.

48 posted on 04/11/2005 12:59:38 PM PDT by bvw
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