Greek Orthodox Church Head Iakovos Dies

A diplomat's diplomat. Wrong on Vietnam but right on the bombing of Yugoslavia and most moral issues. Archbishops like popes should mainly stay out of politics.

This Bishop sounds fruity, but aside from his leftist tendencies, I don't have a problem with him. In the ROCOR, our Bishops are known for telling it like it is, and THEY aren't exactly popular either. I doubt if they have much love for the Pope either.

See my #36. He's actually very popular in his own diocese, and isn't terribly well known outside it since he doesn't meddle in other bishops' business.

Even those priests in his diocese who are politically very conservative (of which there are many) are very loyal to him, and he to them. The only place where he is well-known is in liturgical circles, where he is very well known for his incredible knowledge and plain good sense (if you are of a traditional bent) when it comes to those matters.

Iakovos Dies

Oy vey.

A hard Great Lent indeed, my friend. My condolences on the passing of Archbishop Iakovos. May His Memory Be Eternal.

Thanks for the posting(s). I'm surprised a Democrat would be drawn to the Orthodox Church. (I mean that as a compliment to the Orthodox.) The Orthodox faith is just so...true, sensible, real. Who would have thought a liberal would appreciate it?

I did not think that the Patriarches did anything but attend the service to pay respects. They stood on the sidelines with other relgious leaders. Somebody kindly provided a picture of them all in black.

I'd frankly be surprised if Bp. Tikhon belonged to any party, let alone would discuss the matter. I wouldn't even be surprised to learn that he didn't vote. He has drawn the ire of folks on FR because of his comments opposing the war in Iraq, which basically puts him on the same side as the Pope in that particular issue -- someone who isn't usually accused by Catholics of being a theological liberal.

I think that many hierarchs (Orthodox and Catholic alike) feel that they must not openly support any taking of life that is not clearly self-defence, and I can't say that I might not do the same thing if I had their spiritual responsibilities. There are those who believe that an anti-war position equals an anti-American position, but I just don't buy that.

In every parish of Bp. Tikhon's diocese, we pray at numerous points in the services for the President and for our armed forces. We don't see this as a conflict to say these prayers and to privately oppose a given war. Believe me, it was extremely hard for many Orthodox Christians in America to pray for our President and our armed forces during the Balkans wars of young Billy Clinton, knowing that he was bombing Orthodox Christians into the Stone Age and helping Muslims solidify their European toehold. But we prayed for them both anyway, because it is our country. During the Russo-Japanese war, St. Nicholas of Japan (who was their Russian bishop) blessed his Japanese Orthodox clergy to serve molebens in church for the Japanese armed forces.

The relationship between religious belief and political conviction is a complicated one in the Orthodox world. Orthodox Christians as a group tend to be fairly apolitical, and our sermons certainly are. One of the Psalms sung at the beginning of every Liturgy in the Slavic tradition includes the line: "Trust ye not in princes, nor in the sons of men, in whom there is no salvation." I repeat that line to myself and to my family a lot, especially when I'm reading the newspaper.

While the Orthodox Church's stance on abortion is unequivocal, even this topic is one that some don't like to have enter the church in a political sense. Right now, the OCA has a primate who is avidly pro-life and doesn't hesitate to march in pro-life rallies and issue very stern letters to be publically read to every congregation in the country. We hope this lasts.

The late Abp. Iakovos of the Greek Archdiocese, for instance, avoided talking about abortion, and actually forbad his priests from speaking of the issue from the pulpit, I've been told. He certainly supported Dukakis firmly and covered for the fact that Dukakis wasn't allowed to receive communion in an Orthodox church (for a number of reasons.) The younger generation of Greek priests is much more outspoken on pro-life issues, unlike the older generation of priests, such as George Stephanopoulos' father.

There are a lot of Democrats amongst cradle Orthodox, just as there are amongst Jews and Catholics, and for many of the same reasons: they were forced to live "on the wrong side of town," weren't allowed to join the Republican's country-clubs, and were socially snubbed for generations. Many of the old-timers owed their first decent jobs to labor unions, and few in the first generation were worrying about the progressive income tax rates.

Many of the younger set are now becoming Republican for all the right reasons, much to the chagrin of their grandparents! Most (but by no means all) converts to Orthdoxy do tend to be quite politically conservative -- certainly on social issues such as gay marriage and abortion. I think that in this day and age, political and theological polarization is running closer together than in earlier generations.