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This Time, There's No Gun Debate in Congress (PIC - Sign Posted at the Red Lake Indian Reservation)
Star Tribune ^ | 04.10.05 | Kevin Diaz

Posted on 04/10/2005 7:11:31 PM PDT by wallcrawlr

WASHINGTON, D.C. -- The day after the Red Lake shootings, the latest of three mass killings in Minnesota and Wisconsin in recent months, a group of House Democrats fired off a letter to Judiciary Committee Chairman James Sensenbrenner, R-Wis., demanding a fresh look at new gun legislation.

But gun control was not on the agenda when Congress returned last week from spring break. Top Republicans are loath to do anything that could restrict gun rights, and Democratic leaders -- still smarting from recent election reverses -- aren't eager to advertise themselves as the antigun party either.

Unlike the 1999 Columbine High School shootings, which prompted a spate of gun-control proposals, the Red Lake High shootings have caused little more than a muted gun debate.

(Excerpt) Read more at startribune.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; US: Minnesota
KEYWORDS: 109th; bang; congress; redlakereservation
A sign at the border of the Red Lake Indian Reservation announces its law against individuals carrying a concealed weapon without a permit.


1 posted on 04/10/2005 7:11:35 PM PDT by wallcrawlr
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To: wallcrawlr

IIRC, This tragedy couldve been possibly stopped had the security officer actually been armed...not to mention one lone citizen.


2 posted on 04/10/2005 7:12:49 PM PDT by wallcrawlr (http://www.bionicear.com)
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> ... the Red Lake High shootings have caused little
> more than a muted gun debate.

Hardly surprising.

Exactly what language would prevent everyone from
ignoring an obviously troubled youth until he steals
a gun from cop and then shoots a bunch of people who
he knows are legally disarmed, including the sham
security guard.

This event wreaks of unintended consequences of the
existing laws. More laws ensure more of the same.


3 posted on 04/10/2005 7:21:24 PM PDT by Boundless
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To: wallcrawlr

The Globalsist & 10 Nation-State Confederates/Marxists/Socialists/Islamofacists/Rapists/HomeInvaders/
DrugDealers/GangBangers....etc

All love gun control laws...because gun control laws ONLY disarm honest citizens...

Criminals dont obey laws...


4 posted on 04/10/2005 7:29:45 PM PDT by joesnuffy (The generation that survived the depression and won WW2 proved poverty does not cause crime)
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To: Boundless

Is this also an unintended consequence of political correctness in our schools? Was it established that the shooter did in fact maintain the Nazi website?

Well, if a troubled student is forced to read "white bad, nonwhite good" every day, of course he is going to learn to resent the white culture.





5 posted on 04/10/2005 7:35:16 PM PDT by scrabblehack
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To: scrabblehack

> Is this also an unintended consequence of political
> correctness in our schools?

Easily. A rational mind will be driven insane by the
insanity of government schools.

If we phase out government schools, 99.9917% of these
shootings simply never happen.


6 posted on 04/10/2005 7:37:49 PM PDT by Boundless
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To: wallcrawlr

Nice sign. I expect it will be full of bullet holes in a few weeks.


7 posted on 04/10/2005 7:43:18 PM PDT by trubluolyguy ("If the enemy is in range, so are you")
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To: trubluolyguy

I was thinking arrows...


8 posted on 04/10/2005 7:44:21 PM PDT by wallcrawlr (http://www.bionicear.com)
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To: wallcrawlr

"I was thinking arrows"

I don't know, I lived on a reservation for 10 years, bow hunting is not big there.


9 posted on 04/10/2005 7:46:30 PM PDT by trubluolyguy ("If the enemy is in range, so are you")
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To: trubluolyguy

The bullet holes won't matter when a drunk driver plows thru in on their way home....


10 posted on 04/10/2005 8:17:02 PM PDT by TWohlford
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To: trubluolyguy

spears then??

http://www.leg.state.mn.us/lrl/issues/indian.asp

http://news.minnesota.publicradio.org/features/199903/24_stawickie_treaty/

http://www.student.carleton.edu/~williama/

http://www.indiancountry.com/content.cfm?id=1061299089


11 posted on 04/10/2005 8:41:38 PM PDT by wallcrawlr (http://www.bionicear.com)
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To: Boundless
Hardly surprising.

Exactly what language would prevent everyone from ignoring an obviously troubled youth until he steals a gun from cop and then shoots a bunch of people who he knows are legally disarmed, including the sham security guard.

This event wreaks of unintended consequences of the existing laws. More laws ensure more of the same.

There was nothing that would have stopped this kid. He had so many demons in his head that he would have figured out a way to kill them even if he didn't have a gun.

More unintended consequences may bring some good out of this tragic situation. The Navajo tribe is having meetings to see what they can do with their youth to prevent something like this from happening on their reservation. There are a lot of gangs and a lot of violent crimes around the reservation and adjoining cities. These Indian kids are very angry, and a lot of them in the gangs literally hate the "white man."

12 posted on 04/10/2005 8:45:27 PM PDT by NRA2BFree (Hosea 4:6 My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge ..)
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To: NRA2BFree

Yes, there is increasing resentment of whites on the reservations.
It sounds a bit like resentment of whites in the black neighborhoods.
It doesn't help the Indian situation that the Bureau of Indian Affairs stole $3 billion of their money and now claims it can not be found!


13 posted on 04/10/2005 9:09:07 PM PDT by henderson field
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To: wallcrawlr
I think the shooter knew all of his victims. We need to outlaw interpersonal relationships.
14 posted on 04/10/2005 9:41:54 PM PDT by kvanbrunt (from philly)
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To: henderson field
Yes, there is increasing resentment of whites on the reservations.

It sounds a bit like resentment of whites in the black neighborhoods.

It doesn't help the Indian situation that the Bureau of Indian Affairs stole $3 billion of their money and now claims it can not be found!

The resentment started when Russell Means and that bunch from AIM came down here and started stirring them up. Then they started blaming the white man for stealing their land, and it's progressed into hatred from then on.

I'm not surprised the BIA lost their money. They should look in Clinton's pocket. They might find it there. LOL

15 posted on 04/10/2005 10:19:50 PM PDT by NRA2BFree (Hosea 4:6 My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge ..)
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To: wallcrawlr

No gun laws would have made any difference in the Red Lake shooting. Look for teenagers who wear horns and trenchcoats daily and openly advertise violence. There you go.


16 posted on 04/11/2005 4:55:54 AM PDT by Sender (Team Infidel USA)
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To: wallcrawlr
A sign at the border of the Red Lake Indian Reservation announces its law against individuals carrying a concealed weapon without a permit.

United States Code, U.S. Criminal Code, Title 18, Section 242;
Deprivation of rights under color of law


Whoever, under color of any law, statute, ordinance, regulation, or custom, willfully subjects any person in any State, Territory, Commonwealth, Possession, or District to the deprivation of any rights, privileges, or immunities secured or protected by the Constitution or laws of the United States, or to different punishments, pains, or penalties, on account of such person being an alien, or by reason of his color, or race, than are prescribed for the punishment of citizens, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than one year, or both; and if bodily injury results from the acts committed in violation of this section or if such acts include the use, attempted use, or threatened use of a dangerous weapon, explosives, or fire, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both; and if death results from the acts committed in violation of this section or if such acts include kidnapping or an attempt to kidnap, aggravated sexual abuse, or an attempt to commit aggravated sexual abuse, or an attempt to kill, shall be fined under this title, or imprisoned for any term of years or for life, or both, or may be sentenced to death.

17 posted on 04/14/2005 2:27:14 PM PDT by archy (The darkness will come. It will find you,and it will scare you like you've never been scared before.)
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