[HitmanLV]

I don't disagree with you - I'm just saying that the being a good listener advice, in itself, isn't a good strategy.

[Pukin Dog]

Who said anything about listening?

[Prophet in the wilderness]

Irregardless of what the feminist and women tell you, and their denial thereof,
They want" GOOD LOOKS " and " MONEY" .
And this conclusion was not made by my own observation ( it just confirms what I already knew ).
I got this from many women who told me personally ( or confided in telling me so, about women ) what women are looking for.
This is not what a man or men have told me, or by my own conclusion, this is what many women have told me through out the years I have known them.
Yes, I have gotten in the " FRIEND " category with women, and so, it didn't matter what I said to them, or asked them, you can learn a lot about women just by being their friend.
Some women that have told me this were very frank about it, or had no qualms of admitting this to me.
As for me, I am trusting in that GOD will send the right woman my way, I am not going to trust in " WORLDY WISDOM " and the " NEW TECHNIQUE " or the next self help book, because, like some have said here on this thread , it's just marketing.
My trust is in GOD, and if GOD wants me to have a woman in my life, so be it.