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To: HitmanNY

What about the "guys only care about boobs and butt and sex" stereotype etc. as well?

Women aren't immune from this problem.....both men and women have their own explanations for why they fail with the opposite sex, whether it is that guys are frightened of independent/intelligent/funny/fun (fill in the blank with whatever you think you are, hot stuff) women or if it is that women only like bad guys.

Now, in my experience, girls do like a bit of excitement and unpredictablity. You will not go very far if you are boring and stale. But, at the same time, it is just not true that all girls are into bad guys (though I must say, I was surprised when listening to a conversation before my mass media writing class in which most of the girls, even "nerds" were talking about how they liked wild, bad boys....and this is a Christian college...)


376 posted on 04/12/2005 11:32:55 PM PDT by rwfromkansas (http://www.xanga.com/home.aspx?user=rwfromkansas)
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To: rwfromkansas

I agree - what you wrote bolsters my position, and doesn't undermine it. As you say, 'both men and women have their own explanations for why they fail with the opposite sex.'

Women I know insist on the 'madonna/whore' dichotomy, which I roughly relate to the 'nice guy/jerk' dichotomy. Both are false in that there are more choices than those two.

Invariably, people who don't do well oversimplify it and insist on paradigms like those I mentioned above. It's not an excuse.


382 posted on 04/13/2005 12:34:18 AM PDT by HitmanLV
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To: rwfromkansas
Now, in my experience, girls do like a bit of excitement and unpredictablity. You will not go very far if you are boring and stale. But, at the same time, it is just not true that all girls are into bad guys...

Women are not into bad guys, they are just naturally responding to the exagerated masculine traits that 'bad boys' have. There is a difference.

412 posted on 04/13/2005 2:18:24 AM PDT by HitmanLV
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