[Alamo-Girl]

Thank you for your reply!

How they see themselves matters to no one but themselves, and whomever else they might have the power to inflict themselves upon.

Indeed. That is my point. I suspect they have a great deal more power than you would like.

The rest of your post is a reflection of your attitude towards those of us who strongly disagree with the happenstance pillar of evolution theory. Intelligent Design proponents do not reject evolution per se but suggest that happenstance cannot explain what is observed, that an intelligent designer is a better explanation.

BTW, there is a growing tide among mathematicians and scientists who do not embrace Intelligent Design speculation of a designer - but also doubt the happenstance pillar of evolution theory (self-organizing complexity, master control genes, information theory and molecular biology, etc.)

These concepts cut both ways - but if the anti-ID crowd doesn't present them, then any mention of them will obviously favor Intelligent Design.

[AntiGuv]

The people I'm referring to are not just performing the ID masquerade, they are outright creationists. We know this because they stood for election, where they didn't feel the need to put on the transparent ID pretense of scientific agnosticism.

BTW, there is a growing tide among mathematicians and scientists who do not embrace Intelligent Design speculation of a designer - but also doubt the happenstance pillar of evolution theory...

LOL! That sounds so grand. You should look up the difference between a tide and a ripple. ;^)