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To: Alamo-Girl
In the case at hand, this is a public hearing called by conservatives. They key word is public.

That's the tragedy. The anti-science faction is being called "conservative." It's the very thing I've been ranting about on this website for years. This can destroy the growing Republican majority in this country, by making them appear to be a pack of idiots (as perhaps they are in Kansas).

As for a "public" debate, that's not how science is conducted. We don't vote on gravity, or on the value of pi. And we don't vote on whether evolution happened either. If Kansas wants to teach creationism, or flat earth, or any other silly thing, that's their business.

If the creationists have their "debate" all by themselves, with no one else present, it will have no more scientific importance than a convention of astrologers. Unfortunately, it may affect the quality of education in Kansas. Too bad. It's their state. Their choice.

48 posted on 04/10/2005 10:00:31 AM PDT by PatrickHenry (<-- Click on my name. The List-O-Links for evolution threads is at my freeper homepage.)
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To: PatrickHenry
Thank you for your reply!

I do not however believe that the Intelligent Design debate will become part of state and national politics unless the parties or candidates pick it up - despite all the MSM attempts to make it so.

And I also agree that science is not a negotiation - but that is not the object here, the object is what to teach the children. And on that point, the public is more evenly divided.

IOW, if large segments of the public reject happenstance in evolution theory then science has failed to make that point. Or perhaps that point cannot be made because it is false or ideological, which is my view on the matter.

51 posted on 04/10/2005 10:08:28 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl (Please donate monthly to Free Republic!)
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To: PatrickHenry
As for a "public" debate, that's not how science is conducted.

Yes, but it is how politics is conducted, and deciding what to include in the curriculum is a political decision.

In a democracy, unfrotunately, everything is political. Scientists need to learn to play politics too. There's no excuse for sitting this out out.

If Kansas wants to teach creationism, or flat earth, or any other silly thing, that's their business.

It is our business. Kansas kids are your countrymen! That is why scientists have a duty, as good Americans, to fight this nonsense.

128 posted on 04/10/2005 4:30:54 PM PDT by curiosity
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To: PatrickHenry

Yeah, the inventor of the MRI, Faraday, and dozens of other inventors and scientist and equivalent to astrologers because they don't believe in evolution.


176 posted on 04/10/2005 11:01:11 PM PDT by FierceKulak
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