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To: js1138; betty boop
Thank you for your reply!

me: Strangely, the ID proponents don't specify who the designer is (God, aliens, collective consciousness) and are therefore the more neutral of the three - but are presumed to be creationist.

you: Oh please. ID proponents can hide their light under a bushel if they choose, for whatever political purpose they desire, but any assertion of a designer other than a supreme being just pushes the origins question back a notch. It's dishonest and should be shameful.

How bizarre! The IDers have figured out how to separate science from religion and that's a problem???

Those who believe the Designer is God are not "hiding their light under a bushel" - they're talking about science here.

There are ID supporters who believe the designer is a "collective consciousness" and others who believe the designers are aliens. The second notion (panspermia - Crick's worldview) is not far at all from exobiology or astrobiology.

160 posted on 04/10/2005 9:55:40 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Alamo-Girl

How bizarre! The IDers have figured out how to separate science from religion and that's a problem???
Those who believe the Designer is God are not "hiding their light under a bushel" - they're talking about science here.

You highlighted the problems that many pro-evolutionists have with ID'ers....they see them as having a more religious agenda. They are so antireligious(or anti-tautolgous) that any one who proposes a divergent view on the origins of life orthodoxy, that the main body of evolutionary biologists hold to be true, is only a boogeyman conservative intolerant science phobe christian in a scientist's lab coat with geeky pocket protectors!


196 posted on 04/11/2005 9:07:20 AM PDT by mdmathis6
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