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Thank you ever so much for your fine post/essay, 2ndreconmarine! You wrote:

"The biological ordering effect apparently violates the second law of thermodynamics."

I'd guess the operative word here is "apparently." Believe it or not, there is work afoot in the physics community that seeks to quantify entropy in living systems, particularly the entropy of human organisms. If I might bring to your attention a recent article by Hungarian astrophysicist Attila Grandpierre, "Entropy and Human Organisms and the Nature of Life," which appeared in Frontier Perspectives (Vol. 13, No. 2, Fall/Winter 2004). Unfortunately, I have not been able to locate this paper on-line, but hope to have a text of it soon. If/when I do, I'll post excerpts for discussion.

BTW, Dr. Grandpierre is not at all an adherent of Intelligent Design theory. But certain of his experimental findings seem to support the idea that life and evolution are not the outcomes of purely stochastic processes.

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Oooooppps!!!! Please forgive me, but I left out part of the title of Grandpierre's article, which is: "Entropy and Information of Human Organisms and the Nature of Life."

So sorry!

[2ndreconmarine]

Believe it or not, there is work afoot in the physics community that seeks to quantify entropy in living systems, particularly the entropy of human organisms.

Cool.

Love to see it, Please ping me.

Now when that comes out, we can have a real fun debate on these threads!!!