Wow. Let it be noted that the vitriol didn't come from the Christians...read the thread from post #1 onward, and note where the vitriol started.
I was never even aware of the hatred others had for Christians until I was in my mid-20's...until then, I had been raised to understand that Christians and Jews were the best of friends, because I'd always had Jewish friends. When I was seven, I was being taught the Hebrew alphabet, which I mistook for a code, and I, in turn, taught my friend my own cipher code. ;)
Getting back to the "2 tries" thing: I would note the following: Moslems believe in a God you can never know, an unfathomable, impersonal god, one forever distant from mankind. The Jews believe in a holy (kadosh? Please forgive my phonetic spelling) 3x kadosh G-d, who loves mankind, but cannot be properly called "father," as it's too personal, even disrespectful. The Christians believe that God should properly be called "father" (Abba) as Christ taught us, and that he's primarily a holy and then loving God who loves us as a parent loves a child.
Notice how the Moslems are at one extreme in their depiction of God, the Christians are the other, and the Jews in the middle?
How like the Moslems the Jews sometimes seem to be, wanting a powerful, conquering Messiah (Mahdi?). It makes no sense: God has seemed to operate contrary to that (most of the time) and would seem, if I dare say this, and I do not mean to offend, to want to offer gentle, persuasive invitations to come to Him before He resorts to compelling force. It seems consistent with our understanding of God, wouldn't you say?
A man convinced against his will is of the same opinion still. God doesn't need robot slaves, which is what He'd get if he forced Himself on us. Wouldn't He send a Messiah that preached love, compassion? Wouldn't that upset the Jews of that time, who sought a conqueror, to save them from the predations of a pagan Rome? I know I'd prefer that, had I lived then.
Doesn't it make sense that God would offer his hand to us, and that all we need do is accept it? Much like a parent/child spat, it's never the child who uncrosses his arms and stops pouting, giving up the grudge, but it's the more mature party, the parent, that has to demonstrate forgiveness and give a kiss to the child to heal the hurt?
The first overture of kiss-and-make up in a family comes from the parent. Children don't know how to heal a division, it must be taught via demonstration. God has done this for us.
God is our collective parent. He wants us to come to Him.
I also think that it's not a coincidence that God chose a people who sat astride the land bridge to three continents. He wanted His message out, disseminated. He wanted to civilize us, and He used the Jews to aid in that. My $0.02.
Peace.
Ain't that the truth.
By their fruits, and all that.
There is no hatred for Christians. Believe what you want -- no Jew is trying to change your faith. Most Christians have no problem with Jews. But a small minority do. And they're the ones trying to destroy Judaism by whatever means necessary -- they're the ones trying to convert us to another religion.
I don't have hatred for Christians. Interesting that rejection of your belief system is hatred. You reject mine, I reject yours. Doesn't mean I hate you. I just have no use for your religion as you have no use for mine.