Posted on 04/09/2005 3:59:58 PM PDT by churchillbuff
Bump for later.
Unlikely that he hadn't met them. He spent a lot of time in Jerusalem, and he was writing his letters only 17 after Jesus' death and resurrection. People who had been Jesus' age - 33 - at that time, would be only 50 when Paul wrote.
JEWS cant be for Gzuz, its impossible. either your a Jew who believes in one god (supreme, eternal, ephermal, with no physical manifestation whatsoever) or your Christian and you believe in the trinity, etc etc.
You make me sick. And yes, I have been on Free Republic for several years and am the chapter director for the Kentucky Free Republic Network. flame away.
You would be guessing wrong.
Christ died. Christ rose. The gospel is that simple. The rest explains why.
1 Corinthians 1:22-24 (New King James Version)
New King James Version (NKJV)
22For Jews request a sign, and Greeks seek after wisdom; 23but we preach Christ crucified, to the Jews a stumbling block and to the Greeks foolishness, 24but to those who are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God and the wisdom of God.
Christianity is not based purely on "belief," it is firmly based in logic. Read Aquinas, read Augustine, read C.S. Lewis. The answers to all questions about Christianity are out there, if you seek them.
The poster who is ranting against Christianity and slandering Saint Paul sounds like Dan Brown's little brother. Lots of heat, no light.
He never claims to have met them.
He says in Galatians:
Then after three years I went up to Jerusalem to see Peter, and abode with him fifteen days.
But other of the apostles saw I none, save James the Lord's brother.
So there is no indication that he met anyone who claimed to have met Jesus other than Peter and James.
Let me get this straight. Christians are allowed to say how great their religion is and that Jews should all convert to Christianity but, if anyone disagrees, he is "ranting against Christianity," he "hates Christians," he is "slandering," he is "ignorant," he should be "banned," his messages should be removed and blah, blah, blah.
You guys just can't take debate. Only your view is allowed.
In my experience, most people with your attitude towards other people and other religions burn out rather quickly. That kind of hate and resentment is toxic.
So you can't be an atheistic Jew or an agnostic Jew, correct? Only practicing orthodox Jews are Jews?
BTW who is in charge of determining who is or is not Jewish? Is there some central Jewish authority on what is or is not Judaism and who is or is not Jewish? Or are you the authority on the subject?
Sure they can. I have known a few.
Jay's brother Scott is likewise a Christian, and serves as the Messianic Rabbi of Beth Adonai here in Atlanta. He's been my minister's mentor for a number of years, and is actually one of the main influences that led me to Messianic worship in the first place (he conducted a Passover service at my old SB church some years ago that I had the pleasure of attending).
Poor analogy. Try using a religious group whose country and culture has provided sanctuary, liberty, goodwill, and respect towards Christians, as Christians in the U.S. have Jews.
To use a group (muslims), that we are currently at war with and in general have a relationship of animosity (in a great part because our nation's support for Israel, I might add), is a most inaccurate comparison.. unless, what Christians' feel for Islam is what Jews feel for Christians. Is this the case, Alouette?
A more proper analogy would be that of the "Christians for Moses" angle. Ah.. but that one does not plunge the dagger into the heart of the Christian, eh Alouette? Since Christians in this nation consider Jews their friends, it just doesn't convey the digust you intend. I do hope that disgust (for Christians) is not equal to the example you posit.
Not really.. when you think about it.
I'm opposed to a group using fraudulent techniques to ensnare uneducated Jews away from Judaism and that makes me "anti-Christian" bigot? Or are you suggesting that Christians have been so nice and kind to the Jews throughout all the centuries that we should all just storm the churches and get baptized out of pure gratitude?
"Jews for Jesus" a Baptist group formerly known as "Board of Missionaries to the Jews" is a pernicious group preying on Jewish ignorami who never had the benefit to study their own scriptures and teachings. These Jews are vulnerable and they are being misled. I have no problem with them recruiting unchurched Christians but please leave the Jews for the rabbis and stop acting like you won the greatest trophy when you snag one.
You do realize that the trinity is One God.
Isaiah 48:16 -- Come ye near unto me, hear ye this; I have not spoken in secret from the beginning; from the time that it was, there am I: and now the Lord GOD, and his Spirit, hath sent me.
Ok, I've thought about. Still works just fine.
Feel free to present some reasons why I should reject the analogy.
Jesus of Nazareth is the Good News, almost everybody loves good news.
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