Posted on 04/09/2005 3:48:54 PM PDT by FairOpinion
Top conservative leaders gathered here a week after Terri Schiavo's death to plot a course of action against the nation's courts, but much of their anger was directed at leading Republicans, exposing an emerging crack between the party's leadership and core supporters on the right.
And yesterday they issued an ''action plan" to take their crusade for control of the nation's courts well beyond Senate debates over judicial nominees, pressing Congress to impeach judges and defund courts they consider ''activist" and to limit the jurisdiction of federal courts over some sensitive social matters -- a strategy opposed by many leading Senate Republicans.
''This is not a Democrat- Republican issue; it is a liberal-conservative issue," Rick Scarborough, a Baptist minister and chair of the Judeo-Christian Council for Constitutional Restoration, sponsor of the gathering, said in an interview. ''It's about a temporal versus eternal value system. We are not going away."
In the charged battle over the future of the nation's courts, conservatives so far are outgunned financially. Last week, liberal groups mounted a multimillion-dollar advertising campaign designed to build support for the filibuster and thwart Senate confirmation of nominees they consider extremists who will pursue a ''radical agenda and favor corporate interests over our interests," as one MoveOn.org radio advertisement intoned.
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I am NOT in my pajamas! LOL
1. You should get broadband.
2. This IS a case of some people misrepresenting the facts in the case DELIBERATELY.
3. This case was NOT about a "small government", it was about an innocent defenseless woman, who did NOT receive due process, being killed by judicial order.
4. Recommend reading Ann Coulter's article:
THE EMPEROR'S NEW ROBES
http://www.anncoulter.org/cgi-local/article.cgi?article=48
"Also on the pro-killing side are conservatives still pissed off about the Civil Rights Act of 1964 who are desperately hoping to be elected "most consistent constitutionalist" by their local Federalist Society chapters.
You can't grow peanuts on your own land or install a toilet capable of disposing two tissues in one flush because of federal government intervention. But Congress demands a review of the process that goes into a governmental determination to kill an innocent American woman — and that goes too far!
It's not a radical extension of current constitutional doctrines — even the legitimate ones! — for the federal government to assert a constitutional right to life that cannot be denied without due process of law under the Fifth and 14th Amendments. Congress didn't ask for much, just the same due process John Wayne Gacy got.
But people even stupider than lawyers have picked up on the vague rumblings from "most consistent constitutionalist" aspirants and begun to claim that Congress' action is an affront to "limited government."
Of course, the most limited of all possible governments is a king. We don't have that sort of "limited government." What we have is divided government: three branches of government at the federal level and 50 states with their own versions of checks and balances.
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Our infallible, divine ruler is a county judge in Florida named George Greer, who has more authority in America than the U.S. Congress, the president and the governor. No wonder the Southern Baptist Church threw Greer out: Only one god per church!
It's a good system if you like monarchy and legally sanctioned murder. But spare me the paeans to "strict constructionism" and "limited government."
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Yes, 20+ years of Evangelical loyalty to Republicans has cleaned up the airwaves, reduced abortion, taken divorce rates down, raised standards of conduct and decency, and in general been a wonderful success.
Why would any THINKING Christian bother to waste a vote on a Republican again?
is that what I said? I'm going to become a "dem"?
A RINO is someone who talks, wrings their hands, and says, "there's nothing more I can do."
A conservatives takes action.
No one took away Terri's right to life, but many tried (thankfully unsuccessfully) to take away her right to die. Her parents may not have agreed with her, you may not have agreed with her, but she (like me and most of us if we were confronted by her hellish circumstance) wanted to die.
So it's the Christian wing of the Republican party you actually have a problem with, right?
"my right to die protected."
And for the MILLIONTH TIME again:
this is NOT a "right to die" case, it's a "right to kill" case, sanctioned by the judiciary.
There was NO directive from Terri to have life support withdrawn, not to mention that FOOD and WATER are NOT life support.
Judge Greere didn't order the feeding tube removed, he ordered that no food or water be given by Terri by any means.
If food and water taken by mouth is life support, we are all on life support, and some judge can order killing us, even without being charged with a crime, by denying us food and water.
Do you call withdrawing from the Republican party taking action?
Calling it "right to die" doesn't make it a moral act. It's called murder, regardless of the label you and others like you wish to call it.
Shouldn't those be states' issues?
I'm leaving the Republican party after 28 years. They're all talk.
I'm not ready to leave the Republican party over this, because there are far too many great conservative Republicans and Freepers who agree with me on this.
The only problem I've had is the hysteria, name-calling and just plain hatefulness of those who disagree..and the intolerance some display in prefering to simply ban us from the debate altogether.
I can sympathize with both sides but this nonsense is driving people away.
You who claim to know what Terri wanted should pick the next lottery numbers for us.
And where are you going?
We don't know, for sure, how the public at large will react to the Schiavo event. The media still holds sway, and the public is still quite manipulable. By the time the next election rolls around, who knows which issues will be more prominent?
I truly don't see that Terri's case has two sides. She was murdered by our judiciary. What is the other side to you?
You're kidding yourself if you think the problem is Frist.
On the question of executing the innocent, only liars call themselves "conservative" when defending the killers.
In fact, it was the direct action of the State which came between Terri Schiavo and her life.
I'm not surprised to see that Mr. MEEEEE!!!! ALL ABOUT MEEEEE!!! (jorge) has joined you But his support should impel you to examine your position carefully.
The Republican party has failed - utterly failed - at the State and Federal level.
Our Republican party here in Ohio is dominated by professinal grafters who use it to loot the treasury and protect their business pals.
They are also in love with abortion and pornography and gambling.
Republicans?
A local former party cheif was just found to have "written a bid" to invest $25 million in cash for a state trust fund and invest it in USED COINS!
Oh, he owns a coin dealership. And he can't say what coins he bought or where they are- it's a trade secret.
These guys are so greedy they don't care what people think anymore.
I expect the whole Republican house of cards to come crashing down next election. Most of the people at our church who worked and voted for the Great President and the Party of Life are done - not going to get fooled again!
You have to present FACTS before people can ignore them.
You presume to know Terri's will in this better than her husband or the courts.
You could be right, or they could be right.
But that's your OPINION. Not a FACT.
You need to learn the difference.
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