Posted on 04/09/2005 3:48:54 PM PDT by FairOpinion
Top conservative leaders gathered here a week after Terri Schiavo's death to plot a course of action against the nation's courts, but much of their anger was directed at leading Republicans, exposing an emerging crack between the party's leadership and core supporters on the right.
And yesterday they issued an ''action plan" to take their crusade for control of the nation's courts well beyond Senate debates over judicial nominees, pressing Congress to impeach judges and defund courts they consider ''activist" and to limit the jurisdiction of federal courts over some sensitive social matters -- a strategy opposed by many leading Senate Republicans.
''This is not a Democrat- Republican issue; it is a liberal-conservative issue," Rick Scarborough, a Baptist minister and chair of the Judeo-Christian Council for Constitutional Restoration, sponsor of the gathering, said in an interview. ''It's about a temporal versus eternal value system. We are not going away."
In the charged battle over the future of the nation's courts, conservatives so far are outgunned financially. Last week, liberal groups mounted a multimillion-dollar advertising campaign designed to build support for the filibuster and thwart Senate confirmation of nominees they consider extremists who will pursue a ''radical agenda and favor corporate interests over our interests," as one MoveOn.org radio advertisement intoned.
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"It's the price you pay for being consistent."
NO. It's the "price", if you can call it that, for stubbornly ignoring FACTS.
Maybe this POS George Felos was able to shop for Judge Greer and knew how he felt about euthanasia. Maybe they know each other? Judge Greer was given award by the Clearwater bar association and the presenter was Scientology's top lawyer.
Any kind of fair and human judge would have blasted Mike Schiavo out of the courtroom and told him never to come back. There was enough latitude in this case for a good judge to have revoked Mikey Schiavo's guardianship which gave him control over Terri.
You got that right!
They no longer rule the Constitutionality of laws, they rule by their own feelings of the way they want the law to be.
Equal branch, my foot.
This sounds good, but it doesn't correspond to reality. Right now, just bring up the words "Terri Schiavo" on a thread and watch what happens. And this is just a forum for old guys in pajamas!
Actually I described them as "so-called" pro-life views.
Many of us who are pro-life don't agree with the simplistic and one dimension grasp of the issue by some who call themselves "pro-life" in this debate.
They aren't.
However the Supreme Court has decided that every individual has the constitutional right to control his or her own medical treatment, including being sustained by a feeding tube in a PVS.
There is quite a rift. Many conservatives, including myself, are withdrawing our affiliation from the Republican party. Those actions are not within FR alone.
The courts determined that it was her desire not to be sustained in a PVS indefinitely by ANY means.
I don't if they were wrong and neither do you.
Well, what is your "grasp" of pro-life? What does it mean to you?
"NO. It's the "price", if you can call it that, for stubbornly ignoring FACTS."
First, let me give you a hand for being the "fastest post in the west", that was amazing. I didn't even manage to get my page reloaded before you got your reply in.
But really I do not want to get too far of topic, and although the Schiavo case was brought up in the article I was loath to bring it up again (but I did, my fault). I would be happy to go through this with you in private or you can browse through one of a thousand related threads.
Really the bigger issue, and one that predates that case, is the rift caused by the abandonment of the conservative principles of small government. The new direction of the republican party is in the direction of big government, federal supremacy, removal of the separation of branches, and integration of Christian dogma with politics. This makes me and many others (majority, minority I don't know) quite uncomfortable to say the least. That is the rift they are eluding to in the article and that is a very real phenomenon.
Will it result in a mass exodus to the libertarian party? I doubt it, but the republican party only needs to lose a couple percentage points to once again become the minority. These issues are best worked internally out before a split of even a small number of supporters.
It's all way too predictable....isn't it :)
Don't try to wrap the bloody dagger of death to an innocent in the U.S. constitution.
She was murdered...slowly and painfully by judges who should be jailed for it.
It is wickedness.
Absolutely barbaric, immoral, and according to the Constitution of the United States, illegal, as their is a presumption of the right to LIFE, that cannot be legally taken away by hearsay.
So you're gonna become a Dem? If so, you weren't/aren't a true Republican anyway. You know - RINO.
I think all of us conservatives here at FR support this, even as some of us don't think the Schiavo is an example. I, for one, think that judges should face removal for not basing their decisions on law and that federal jurisdiction over 'sensitive social matters' should be limited, but I also want my right to die protected.
Keep in mind that the judicial decisions made in the Schiavo case (even those by liberal judges) were very conservative decisions based on longstanding law. It was a small group of extreme pro-lifers who wanted to jettison the law and look for a particular result with which they agreed.
But time to unite again on getting the federal courts out of 'social issues'. Tell DeLay and the panderers in Congress: no more midnight bills trying to jettison the law and get a particular result. That's the liberals approach, not ours.
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