Bill would card anyone buying booze (Michigan)

Flint Journal ^ | 4-9-05 | Marjory Raymer

[Doe Eyes]

Don't you just love the "nanny state".

Started with marijuana, then cigarettes, now liquor. How many freepers think its the responsibility of the government to protect you from your vices?

[Lokibob]

MADD= Mothers Against Drunk Drivers
DAMM= Drunks Against Mad Mothers.

[governsleastgovernsbest]

Bill would card anyone buying booze

"Can I see your ID, sweetheart?"

[cripplecreek]

"To enforce it, though, bartenders and servers would have to verify a customers' status on every visit, even if they're a regular."


Unenforceable. Some places already have that policy but the employees simply ask for your birthdate and write it down.

[dighton]

To enforce it, though, bartenders and servers would have to verify a customers' status on every visit, even if they're a regular.

Better safe than sorry! The guy you carded last time as 70 might have time-warped back to 19, despite continued presence of gray hair, crow's feet, and the rest of it.

(rolls eyeballs)

[PresbyRev]

Ah the old canard - "If it saves one life it will be worth it."

[AGreatPer]

Nobody wants drunk drivers on the road. But this is getting silly already. Gvt, get the hell out of my business. Opps, just saw it, its NY.

[Cicero]

Some years ago for a few months our local supermarket in Connecticut made us show ID to buy beer, now matter how old we obviously were. Evidently the police or some lawyer must have given them trouble. Eventually they stopped doing it, probably after driving their customers away or driving them mad.

This kind of things isn't the smartest way for politicians to win votes.

[Graybeard58]

I don't drink but I bought some pre Chrisatmas liquor and I was carded. It was store policy and I don't have a problem with that. If it was state law I would.

I'll be 60 in June but don't look a day older than 59 1/2

[Clock King]

...anyone convicted of driving while intoxicated or impaired would get licenses in the same vertical format...

So, get a state ID rather than a license.

[TheSpottedOwl]

It is part of an attempt by state Rep. John Stahl, R-Arcadia Twp., to ban convicted drunken drivers from buying alcohol for at least a year.

While I'm sorry for what happened to his son, this man has apparently too much time on his hands.

[sergeantdave]

I just love it when legislators use their power to promote pet causes.

Meanwhile, Michigan has the highest unemployment rate in the nation, businesses are closing shop and leaving this ever more stupid state, and young people are escaping to more friendly environments in other states.

Anyway, let's spend $100 million to build Jenny's bureaucrat-approved "cool cities," and let's not forget to give a big "okey-dokey" to the communist governor's Marxist land use plan so unelected soviet socialist planning councils can tell us how to use our property.

[GoldCountryRedneck]

"It's for the children......"

[weegee]

It started with Absinthe (many countries still ban it) and prohibition movements against alcohol followed.

Cocaine, morphine, and marijuana seemed late to the banned items list.

Revenuers have always found money in taxing alcohol. The power to tax is the power to control (and destroy). Legalizing hard or soft drugs at this point would only expand the powers of the ATF and move the DEA under their wing.

Meanwhile I got rear ended a couple weeks ago, lost my 7 year old (purchased new) car and have a sore neck as a result. This happened at 10am on a Saturday as a housewife drove the family SUV around, not paying attention. She may have been on a cell phone at the time but the issue was not raised and police did not even write her a ticket (we had to fill out our own paperwork for $6k+ in damage).

[Springman]

We are going to card every one who wants to buy booze, including my 81 year old Father.

However, we can't ask for anyone's ID to vote????

[weegee]

The real goal is to force bartenders to eye over the customers more and to be held liable if someone gets drunk at the bar (they are not to be overserved). Wonder if they will cut off "multiple" drink sales and require everyone to leave the table to stand at the bar when "buying a round".

[Terriergal]

I have no problem if they actually blame the drinkers for buying the stuff. Working as a cashier however, we are put in a spot having to sell the stuff- if someone fools us, or we don't happen to think they LOOK 27 or under (and therefore need to be carded) we can get in trouble for not carding - or if a parent comes in and buys some coolers and happens to have a minor along (buying groceries etc..) - the store and parents and we can get in trouble (fined and fired) for 'selling to/buying for a minor' if the teenager puts the bag into the cart or pushes the cart outside. It's utterly ridiculous.

So many of us cashiers have resorted to just carding everyone because we're not about to get fined for an error in judgement on something so subjective.

[weegee]

Asking for IDs to vote would "intimidate" people. People who don't have any concerns when asked for ID to buy alcohol, write a check, cash a check, pick up a package at the post office, get on an airplane, enter a 21+ business (bar, dance club, comedy club, nudie bar...).