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To: dljordan

Wait just a doggone minute! I am not a stupid bleeding heart liberal. Did you read that article? It said that those particular people had "Tax Identification Numbers," not social security numbers. The tax identification numbers were given to them for the purposes of paying taxes. I don't know how that works, but they did not have to have social security numbers apparently to do it. Those who steal social security numbers should be arrested and prosecuted, just like any other criminals. They should also be deported. If these people can get jobs and move up in the world as undocumented citizens, what is holding you back? You have all of the advantages that they do not.


22 posted on 04/09/2005 6:25:08 PM PDT by Goodgirlinred ( GoodGirlInRed Four More Years!!!!!)
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To: Goodgirlinred

Sorry, I didn't mean to imply you are a liberal. My apologies.


23 posted on 04/09/2005 8:06:13 PM PDT by dljordan
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To: Goodgirlinred

you call IRS you get tax id number. That simple.

if you really want to be creative, for a few hundred you start a corporation and then get a tax ID for the corporation.

The corprate tax id # is STUPIDLY identical in numbers to a SS#. A tax ID number should be more numbers and include letters to be DIFFERENT from SS#'s.


25 posted on 04/09/2005 8:17:52 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: Goodgirlinred
I didn't know any of this!!!

If you need a number for tax purposes and you are not authorized to work in the U.S., you can apply for an Individual Taxpayer Identification Number from the Internal Revenue Service (IRS). Visit IRS in person or call the IRS toll-free number, 1-800-TAXFORM (1-800-829-3676), and request Form W-7, Application For An Individual Taxpayer Identification Number.

Lawfully admitted noncitizens can get many benefits and services without having a Social Security number. You do not need a number to purchase savings bonds, conduct business with a bank, register for school or apply for educational tests, obtain private health insurance, apply for school lunch programs or apply for subsidized housing.

You may apply for a Social Security number if you do not have permission to work:

* If a federal law requires that you show your Social Security number to get a particular benefit or service; or
* If a state or local law requires you to show your Social Security number to get general assistance benefits.

To get a number to meet a state or local government requirement, you must provide a letter, on letterhead stationery (no form letters or photocopies), from the government agency requiring you to get a number. The letter must:

* Specifically identify you as the applicant; * Cite the law requiring you to have a Social Security number;
* Indicate that you meet all the agency’s requirements, except having the number; and
* Contain an agency contact name and telephone number.

If you are assigned a number for nonwork purposes, you cannot use it to work. If you use it to work, we may inform DHS.

You will receive your number and card as soon as we verify your immigration status with DHS. Your employer can use your immigration documents as proof of your authorization to work in the U.S.

32 posted on 04/09/2005 9:04:42 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: Goodgirlinred

An ITIN, or individual Taxpayer Identification Number, is a tax processing number that is available for certain nonresident and resident aliens, their spouse, and dependents. The ITIN is only available to individuals who cannot get a Social Security Number (SSN). It is a 9-digit number, beginning with the number "9", formatted like an SSN (NNN-NN- NNN). The temporary IRS Number previously assigned is no longer valid.

What is the purpose of an ITIN?

ITINs are only used for federal income tax purposes. The issuance of an ITIN does not:

* entitle the recipient to Social Security benefits or the Earned Income Tax Credit (EITC);
* create an inference regarding the individual's immigration status;
* give the individual the right to work in the U.S.

When completing the tax return (1040, 1040A, 1040EZ, 1040NR, 1040NR EZ), the individual will enter their ITIN in the space for the SSN.


34 posted on 04/09/2005 9:07:04 PM PDT by kcvl
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