Organic-Rich Soup-in-the-Ocean of Early Earth [Miller experiment revisited]

REDNOVA NEWS ^ | 08 April 2005 | Staff

[MacDorcha]

That's because of their particular properties.

And again, why do their properties have any bearing on it? "It just is" isn't a viable answer.

Why do they act according to these laws? (and yes, I full well understand that you feel "law" is a misnomer)

[Tribune7]

OK :-)

[AntiGuv]

I've seen drawings of God - and even statues. But I asked for a photograph. Video would be better. ;^)

[Myrddin]

I worked as a chemistry lab TA for Stanley Miller while I was an undergraduate at Revelle College, UCSD. I asked Dr. Miller how long it took to get the initial amino acids. I was surprised at the answer. There were peptide fragments of 2 and 3 amino acids within 48 hours.

[PatrickHenry]

Most interesting. Thanks for the info.

[MacDorcha]

Thats perfectly reasonable to assume. I just wish there were some scientists somewhere out there willing to make the wait.

[MacDorcha]

Good point.

BTW doc, I just recalled my thought process:
Based on the thoughts of any engineer.

If speed is inverse to accuracy, then would slowing down the process make forming DNA easier? Fewer repititions, sure, but that would also mean less chance for malignant radicals. (metabolism)

Any thoughts?

[MacDorcha]

I found a new friend :)

[AndrewC]

But I asked for a photograph.

Okay, here is a photograph.

Does he exist?

[MacDorcha]

You know, I'm on most of these "crevo" threads well before you are. I am yet to see this blaring example of creationists or IDers claiming such.

Take a second to breathe before throwing accusations.

[AndrewC]

There were peptide fragments of 2 and 3 amino acids within 48 hours.

Did you happen to ask how many different amino acids were formed and the length of the longest peptide created for the entire experiment?

[MacDorcha]

Use the "enter" key!

[MacDorcha]

"if God spoke to us all, in clear unmistakable words, and announced that His work here was done, and He was leaving this universe forever in order to take care of business elsewhere, wouldn't we still be able to determine things like right, wrong, and truth?"

And this would be the 7th yom. Where God rested!

Sorry, I just find it cool how any idea can be taken directly from the Bible.

[AntiGuv]

My guess is that whoever that is is dead. That's OK, I would accept photographs of dead gods into evidence.

[balrog666]

BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHA!

Very funny. And pathetic.

[balrog666]

BTW doc, I just recalled my thought process: Based on the thoughts of any engineer. If speed is inverse to accuracy,

It's not. You need a new thought. And a process wouldn't hurt.

[js1138]

Speed is pretty much irrelevant here. What is needed is understanding of the steps necessary. We already know that living things can replicate in minutes or even seconds. What we don't know is how the pieces came together and under what conditions. With understanding and under controlled conditions, the whole process could happen in minutes or hours. If this happens in the laboratory, it will tell us something about what early conditions might have been.

This is a big project and no drug company is investing in the research. It could take five years or five hundred. I' guessing between 20 and 50, but that's just an off the top of my head guess.

Who would have predicted fifty years ago that genetic engineering would be a huge industrial enterprise in the year 2005?

[balrog666]

You know, I'm on most of these "crevo" threads well before you are. I am yet to see this blaring example of creationists or IDers claiming such. Take a second to breathe before throwing accusations.

You screwed up your references again. I suggest you cite what you are objecting to before to try to disparage it.

You know, it tends to focus people's thoughts, and you seem to need a lot of focus.

[MacDorcha]

Ok, I'll appologize for that. I did misread it.

[Tribune7]

Jesus loves you.