The Future of North America: Beyond Free Trade

Brookings Institution ^ | 2/12/02

[dennisw]

I like Bush on a lot of issues but his neglect of illegal immigration is boiling my blood...knowing there are young folks in Iraq doing untold hours of dangerous guard duty and our borders are free to walk across

That's a cognitive disconnect for me too and has been for  a long time. What the heck are we fighting for in Iraq? Why are Americans shedding blood and dying over there? For American interests or for the interests of some North American integrated zone and trade bloc. Seems to me are trying to form an EU type of organization here between USA Canada and Mexico while Mexico is invading us with their unwanted brown people and Canada won't even cooperate on the NORAD system

[dennisw]

Yes there is, and America is doing it. That is the beautiful thing about Bush's open borders. Mexicans come in and take low paying jobs away from America's unskilled workers. Second we outsource every job that pays a living wage, so our skilled American workers are made destitute.

Running up our trade deficit to insane levels thus trashing the dollar. Ft Lauderdale tourism is great this year between the Europeans and the Canadians (mostly Quebec) who are taking advantage of the lower dollar. At the beach it's harder for us to find a good parking space than in years gone by

[swampfox98]

Ft Lauderdale tourism is great this year between the Europeans and the Canadians (mostly Quebec) who are taking advantage of the lower dolla.

There is more to life than good tourism in Ft. Lauderdale.

[dennisw]

I hope you understand I'm on your side on this .... I would institute tariffs tomorrow if it were in my power. This trade deficit is lethal. Foreigners will buy up America at fire sale prices.

[antisocial]

I've been watching this crap for a long time and something needs to be spelled out so everyone can understand it:
BROOKINGS INSTITUTE is as FAR LEFT SOCIALIST as you can get,
yet our CONSERVATIVE PRESIDENT BUSH is advocating EVERYTHING
the Brookings boys have in mind for us. Republicans have been his strong allies in the deceit.

The Constitution has been a dead letter for many years.
I'm for a second Revolution, time is running out!

[swampfox98]

Foreigners will buy up America at fire sale prices.

That wouldn't be the case if the politicians hadn't sold out American jobs to their business, manufacturing and international anti American friends.

America, in the past, could rise up and defeat any problem at any time. But now that America has be selected for destruction by our politicians, I'd say you are right on.

[antisocial]

"All three countries also will have to confront issues of sovereignty and basic nationalism in deciding how much further integration to pursue. Virtually by definition, multilateral cooperation leads to the loss of sovereign decision-making power. In exchange for expected benefits, NAFTA has required the US, Mexico, and Canada all to substitute mutually-agreed upon rules and joint dispute resolution procedures for what had previously been national decisions. Deeper North American integration will introduce more common rules and regulations, more joint decision-making, and perhaps even new trilateral institutions. These changes will provoke opposition among groups in all three countries who will use traditional conceptions of "sovereignty" as their defense."

If that doesen't everybody's blood pressure up to actionable levels, I doubt if anything can!

[Jack Black]

Let the Canadian provinces and Mexico petition for statehood. Then we can have a debate.

[Travis McGee]

Unless illegal immigration is stopped NOW, demographics (and illegal voting) will be destiny. And it won't be stopped IMO because neither political party has the will to face up to the long-term consequences nor offend hispanic voters.

That's the plot of my next novel, about the Aztlanization of the Southwest, until it demands political autonomy.

[Travis McGee]

I advocate hanging all the participants in this travesty.

Got Rope?

[Travis McGee]

"Don't worry VIncente, I'll just call it the new amnesty a

guest worker program. The morons will never figure it out."

[the gillman@blacklagoon.com]

Not enough.

Notice that was one of the first manufacturers to be driven out of America. We don't make rope in this country anymore, probably part of the big scheme.

:-)

Say, haven't seen your pal, Vomittup lately.

[hedgetrimmer]

Let the Canadian provinces and Mexico petition for statehood.

Now that would be the Constitutional thing to do. Except that Canada wouldn't want to become a state, they are looking for the US to bail out their health care system and Mexico-- Why should they become a state and their citizens pay taxes like Americans to raise the rest of the world out of poverty? They are getting everything for free right now-- they wouldn't want to change the status quo.

[Travis McGee]

This is the thrust of my new book. The elites turn a blind eye to massive illegal immigration, until the Southwest demands autonomy from a broke and failing USA. They new all along this would happen, and it helps to contribute to the move to integrate the hemisphere into an "American Union" along the lines of the EU.

After all, who cares if we still have 50 states in the USA, if we're all just going to be part of the AU anyway, from Canada to Chile?

Many will agree that a "Republica del Norte" united by language and culture makes sense. Anyway, it will just be one more "region" of the American Union, in a post-national era.

[Travis McGee]

Yep, we'd need a LOT of rope for all of the traitors we have, gnawing away at America's guts like busy termites.

[Travis McGee]

What happens when the US dollar is no longer the world's reserve currency, and we don't get to play "world's banker" any more? That's coming. Then the present paradigm of US hemispheric domination will blow away like autumn leaves.

[the gillman@blacklagoon.com]

You should be writing your book.
Want to see it on the shelves before it's history instead of prediction.

[antisocial]

I hope you don't mind if I send that picture and captions
to some of my contacts.

[hedgetrimmer]

BROOKINGS INSTITUTE is as FAR LEFT SOCIALIST as you can get, yet our CONSERVATIVE PRESIDENT BUSH is advocating EVERYTHING the Brookings boys have in mind for us.

Well said. Shall we begin to let Congress know that its time to kill CAFTA, get all our federal agencies conducting their "trade capacity building" welfare programs out of Mexico, Central and South America and put a stake through the FTAA once and for all?

1rudeboy--"Free trade" is far left socialism. It is a construct of global socialists to wrest self governance from the American people. It is wealth redistribution, it is a destroyer of sovereignty and indivdiual rights.

[taxed2death]

"What the heck are we fighting for in Iraq? Why are Americans shedding blood and dying over there?"

Well, at the risk of getting severely flamed.....we SURE as hell are NOT fighting for Democracy. Why is GWB so eager to destroy our sovereignty here in the US....and at the same time pontificate that the war in Iraq is to "free" those people.

Ask yourself one question. If Iraq had no oil, would we be there? Would we have sent tropps there if Iraq's biggest export had been walnuts? And... I'm not really against "fighting for oil"....as long as the POTUS just has the common decency to come out and say it. Ay least GHWB did! I'll give pops that credit!