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Granddaughter yanks grandma's feeding tube
WorldNetDaily.com ^ | April 7, 2005 | Sarah Foster

Posted on 04/07/2005 5:34:06 PM PDT by News Hunter

Edited on 04/07/2005 5:39:05 PM PDT by Sidebar Moderator. [history]

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To: Terriergal
So you're saying the lady isn't being starved/dehydrated?

She left a directive. Doctors were consulted. Mullinax could be lying about her condition. I don't consider a Democratic conspiracy any more of a stretch than a hospice conspiracy.

461 posted on 04/08/2005 10:53:57 PM PDT by RGSpincich
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To: k2blader

Good tagline. It well expresses how I have always seen this situation.


462 posted on 04/08/2005 11:09:44 PM PDT by TAdams8591 (Evil succeeds when good men don't do enough!!!!!!)
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To: NewLand

Right you are. That is the way it began and in the minds of many, where it was going to stay. How wrong they were.


463 posted on 04/08/2005 11:12:54 PM PDT by TAdams8591 (Evil succeeds when good men don't do enough!!!!!!)
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To: MACVSOG68
Is this based on Mullinax's statements, or from some independent source?

No sources are "independent".

Do you have any other knowledge not contained in the WND article or from Glen Beck?

Information is contained in an article, not knowledge. Knowledge is in your mind, hopefully.So yes, I have other information.

What exactly would you do now?

Communicate with others rather than with you.

464 posted on 04/09/2005 1:54:54 AM PDT by beyond the sea (Advanced Directive -- don't step on my blue suede shoes.)
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To: Terriergal

I heard it live. This nephew is for real, and smarter than all the people close to Terri trying to save her. Unfortunately the aunt is 81, and is being starved, is in a small town with a close knit group fooling with her life, and I hear the granddaughter stands to inherit $500,000. Not too good. Is that inheritance thing true?


465 posted on 04/09/2005 2:24:01 AM PDT by beyond the sea (Advanced Directive -- don't step on my blue suede shoes.)
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To: Terriergal; RGSpincich; Diogenesis
Why would he include the part about having gotten the tube back in but because the eye drops are not on the ruling they aren't giving her those? (I thought that was what he said.) That just seems a little too picky and odd a detail for a conspiracy to think to include.

Nice catch! That detail cemented it for me.

This "forced death" is at least as obvious as Terri's.

466 posted on 04/09/2005 2:30:11 AM PDT by beyond the sea (Advanced Directive -- don't step on my blue suede shoes.)
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To: News Hunter

Looks like murder.


467 posted on 04/09/2005 2:36:33 AM PDT by hershey
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To: RGSpincich; Terriergal; MACVSOG68
It's possible that he is a Democratic political operative.

Baloney.

You lack sense, imo.

Here is an example that should explain how you lack sense:

At very high levels of baseball, there are some players who cannot hit a curveball, no matter how much they try, they fail. Why? Usually because of only two reasons --- 1. Fear ..... 2. Their eyes cannot pick up the spin (rotation) on the ball. Their eyes are just not as excellent as other players.

You are much the same about this story. You either: 1. Fear that it is true...... or 2. Your senses do not permit you to read the story and sense who is telling the truth.

Plain and simple, imo.

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This 81 year old lady, by the way with a history of longevity in her family, is most likely being killed because others are tired of dealing with her. Plain and simple.

468 posted on 04/09/2005 2:42:11 AM PDT by beyond the sea (Advanced Directive -- don't step on my blue suede shoes.)
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To: k2blader
tagline: If suicide is immoral, then helping it happen, regardless of motivation, is also immoral.

They are not helping suicide to happen, imo, they're aiding murder.

469 posted on 04/09/2005 2:45:06 AM PDT by beyond the sea (Advanced Directive -- don't step on my blue suede shoes.)
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To: robertpaulsen
People are already starting to backpedal.

Not that I disagree, but who are "backpedalling" in your opinion?

470 posted on 04/09/2005 3:17:49 AM PDT by beyond the sea (Advanced Directive -- don't step on my blue suede shoes.)
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To: shadowman99
We don't need FR burying this as well.

You're right, this should have some prominence, imo.

471 posted on 04/09/2005 3:18:53 AM PDT by beyond the sea (Advanced Directive -- don't step on my blue suede shoes.)
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To: MACVSOG68; yellowdoghunter; Netizen; jwalsh07; k2blader
“They’re following the doctors’ recommendations and they want to do what’s in the best interests of their grandmother,” Daniel said, adding that hospice is providing “excellent care” for Magourik

Yeh right! No nourishment is "what’s in the best interests of their grandmother" and "excellent care".

How sweet.

472 posted on 04/09/2005 3:30:24 AM PDT by beyond the sea (Advanced Directive -- don't step on my blue suede shoes.)
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To: pa mom; k2blader
That's why I said SOME. I have read nasty, vile stuff about anyone who doesn't fit SOME people's definition of pro-life (not this thread per se, many Schiavo ones and such). I am saddened that it seems to be okay to hate if LIFE is involved. Some invoke the word and stifle any discussion and I think there is ego gratification involved.

Hey folks, excuse me for saying this but:

Over the past weeks (Terri and now this) a lot of people have been getting very angry and many have gotten hurt and disturbed by all the "pro-life" and not "pro-life people. Is it possible to try to keep the dogma out of this and just speak to the specifics of the particular case? Can't we just address how this woman is being treated and leave all the "politics" out of it? It's really fundamentally about this 81 year old woman and a granddaughter who looks like she may have become tired of taking care of her grandmother.

Sorry, I had to interject that.

473 posted on 04/09/2005 3:42:57 AM PDT by beyond the sea (Advanced Directive -- don't step on my blue suede shoes.)
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To: muawiyah; MACVSOG68
As soon as you heard the granddaughter found a judge willing to give her an ex parte hearing on Friday, with a ruling good for the weekend, it's at that point you should have immediately begun to doubt the granddaughter's interest in grandma's good health as well as the judge's integrity.

Seems like you are correct. That sets off signals, imo.

474 posted on 04/09/2005 3:44:55 AM PDT by beyond the sea (Advanced Directive -- don't step on my blue suede shoes.)
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To: beyond the sea

Hm, maybe I should change my tagline..

I don't mean for suicide to be an explanation of what I think happened to Terri Schindler or what is happening to Mae Magouirk.

I put the tagline up for the benefit of folks who favor "mercy killing"--which is one of the arguments they used against Terri and will no doubt use again against Mae--with the hopes that they'll stop and think more seriously about what they're advocating. "Mercy killing" is murder too, even if they claim the victim wanted to be "assisted" that way.

But I can see how it might be misconstrued.. I'll think about it over the weekend and change it to something a little less confusing. :-)


475 posted on 04/09/2005 3:49:34 AM PDT by k2blader (If suicide is immoral, then helping it happen, regardless of motivation, is also immoral.)
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To: skr
My understanding is that the granddaughter had the power of attorney but not the authorization to make medical decisions. According to that state that authorization belongs to the closest relative which is her sister. The sister and a nephew immediately attempted to get her to a hospital but Judge Boyd ignored the law and the living will and would not allow them to take care of Mae.

Very succinct..... thanks.

476 posted on 04/09/2005 3:53:31 AM PDT by beyond the sea (Advanced Directive -- don't step on my blue suede shoes.)
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To: k2blader; Terriergal
Hm, maybe I should change my tagline..

Yes, but I see that you have good sense concerning the reports on this matter.

This 81 year old lady better get some nourishment soon if she is not getting it right now!

477 posted on 04/09/2005 3:58:40 AM PDT by beyond the sea (Advanced Directive -- don't step on my blue suede shoes.)
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To: beyond the sea
They’re following the doctors’ recommendations and they want to do what’s in the best interests of their grandmother,”

Who's "They?" There's only the granddaughter who lied about having medical power of attorney. She only had financial power, which must be enough if you're in the right "neck of the woods."

The sister, brother & nephew would take care of her.

478 posted on 04/09/2005 4:01:55 AM PDT by madison10
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To: madison10
Who's "They?" There's only the granddaughter who lied about having medical power of attorney. She only had financial power, which must be enough if you're in the right "neck of the woods." ------ The sister, brother & nephew would take care of her.

Right! To any reasonable person, having seen what has already been reported and having heard the nephew speak on Beck, this matter should be even more clear than what happened to Terri.

This 81 year old woman is getting "the treatment".

479 posted on 04/09/2005 4:12:35 AM PDT by beyond the sea (Advanced Directive -- don't step on my blue suede shoes.)
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To: FormerACLUmember
The thought I could not get out of my mind during the Terri Schiavo matter was, Is she the only one?

When I began to find out more about how the system was arranged around the hospice center with the judge's wife and Attorney Felos on the board. I found it increasingly hard to believe that she was. It appears there was a "money machine" set up. People would come in and have the majority of there estates extracted and when the money ran out they would conveniently die.

It is clear now that Terri was not the only one and that particular hospice center was not the only one involved in this kind of scam.

We need to raise a hew and cry on these cases to get some professional investigators in there to expose what is going on.

I hope Tom Delay begins this process by looking into the judges and removing the worst of them, but that will be just the beginning.
480 posted on 04/09/2005 4:31:39 AM PDT by Cowman
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