Granddaughter yanks grandma's feeding tube

WorldNetDaily.com ^ | April 7, 2005 | Sarah Foster

[ex 98C MI Dude]

You said that in the Schiavo murder. You were told (basically) that it wouldn't, couldn't happen, that this was a unique case, and we shouldn't read to much into it, because 'rule of law' will keep it from doing so. A 'living will' will solve all problems like this, 'they' said...

What will 'they' say now?

[Budge]

Now the vegetative state isn't a requirement for euthanasia.

Nope, just being old, or "in the way," or handicapped, or...

My GOD! What have we become!

[MACVSOG68]

Actually, I'm implying that the state executive be the one to first have the opportunity to intervene; and, please do not twist the argument around by cleverly comparing it to liberal efforts to invoke the fed. govt. to enforce their often unconstitutional and subversive demands. Protecting life is guaranteed in the constitution, and it is the executive's job to enforce that when everyone else forgets.

Not trying to cleverly twist anything, but the analogy holds. The fact that you feel the liberal attempts to bring in the federal government are for unconstitutional and subversive demands is probably no different than their reaction to those wanting the President to intervene in state and county probate matters.

As for constitutional guarantees protecting life, they are quite limited and only to ensure due process. Your concerns over due process nothwithstanding, when over 40 judges participated in the Schiavo affair, and when many of them were both religious and conservative, many of us would say that due process was served. The fact that we may not have liked the outcome is irrelevant and certainly does not beg for congressional and executive intervention, at least for those of us who believe in the Tenth Amendment.

As for the current issue in Georgia, many here do not want any further "due process", just federal intervention. I would prefer to see this go through the judicial process first and see if the story still remains as initially reported.

[Jimmy Valentine's brother]

Grandma was inconvenient.

It will be the aging baby boomers turn next.

[writer33]

A convenience of the living murder.

[jess35]

"They" will say, it would sure be nice if one other news organization in the entire world also ran this story. As of right now, it's only WND and there are a few errors (such as the name of one of the doctors).

[Lexinom]

It seems corroborated, since I posted that to you. Just am wary of those who would want to cause a needless uproar for the purposes of discrediting. The timing is ripe for such a thing.

Having said that I'm really not sure what we can do to stop this besides writing our legislators.

[editor-surveyor]

"In counties with population over 96,000, a candidate for probate judge must have practiced law for seven years and be at least 30 years of age."

It is a conflict of interest to allow someone who has practiced law to become a judge.

How can we ever get this country straightened out if Lieyers can become Judges?

[MACVSOG68]

Most probate court judges are elected to four-year terms in countywide, partisan elections. A candidate for judge of the probate court must be at least 25 years of age, a high school graduate, a U.S. citizen and a county resident for at least two years preceding the election. In counties with population over 96,000, a candidate for probate judge must have practiced law for seven years and be at least 30 years of age.

My God! How dare the federal government permit a state to determine the qualifications of its judges! Quick, let's call Congress together for a special session to look into this....

[ClancyJ]

I would suspect that the courts hear an awful lot of the realities of the elderly and maybe that is why they come up with some of these decisions.

But, we do not commit murder because there is no one to care for grandma, or because the money handler refuses to pay out of grandma's money. (Don't have any idea if this pertains to this case-but with all coming out nowadays, if one is willing to kill, one is willing to withhold funds, lie, bribe or whatever)

[WhistlingPastTheGraveyard]

What will 'they' say now?

Either they'll impeach the source (it's only World Net Daily), or they'll stick their thumbs in their ears, sing "Mary Had a Little Lamb" at the top of their lungs and ignore the story altogether.

What they won't do is admit they were dead wrong. Ever.

[RGSpincich]

Two weeks ago, Magouirk's aorta had a dissection, and she was hospitalized in the local LaGrange Hospital. Her aortic problem was determined to be severe, and she was admitted to the intensive care unit. At the time of her admission she was lucid and had never been diagnosed with dementia.

From this point WND jumps to the discourse in the family. Wonder how long her brain was oxygen impaired? "At the time of her admission" seems to be a qualifier of a known decline in the woman's condition at some time after her admission. It is common for severe brain damage to occur as a result of severe aorta dissection. It would be helpful to hear the other side of the story.

[ATOMIC_PUNK]

[MACVSOG68]

It would be helpful to hear the other side of the story

I can guarantee that around here these days, asking that question will bring out all sorts of charges against you. But you pose an excellent point, and until we hear from doctors, the hospice, Gaddy and the judge, we can only say we have heard one side of it.

[infidel29]

Do you listen to Glenn Beck? The nephew was on the radio this morning. Check here for the story.

[TheeOhioInfidel]

The problem is that we're not hearing from them. Someone's life is on the line, and we're being told to wait for the other side to post their case. How long do we wait-until the woman is dead?

[Xenalyte]

What'd the nephew say? I had lawyers in here all morning (I know, like THAT never happens).

[yellowdoghunter]

Very good question. I will await to hear the answer.

[Xenalyte]

She has been kept sedated with morphine and ativan, a powerful tranquillizer.

Point of order: Ativan is anything BUT a "powerful tranquilizer." It's quite low-grade.

[RGSpincich]

At a follow-up hearing Monday, the parties reached a settlement that awarded guardianship to Gaddy provided three cardiologists – James Brennan and Thomas Gore, both of LaGrange, and Raed Aquel of Birmingham – evaluate the patient, who would receive whatever treatment two of the three recommended.

So there it is. These parties have reached an agreement on how to care for the woman. I don't hear the nephew saying that the granddaughter is going against the advice of the doctors. Seems the nephew is grasping at his 15 minutes after first agreeing to abide by the agreement between the parties.