Gay U.S. Soldier Wants to Serve Openly

AP ^ | 4/7/05 | Malia Rulon

[Bommer]

I find it hard to justify keeping openly gay people out of the military.

Bet they would find something hard in the shower with other naked men or a foxhole with a young tender private they outrank!

[Alberta's Child]

Next is football...question is, would a gay football player want to be a tight end or a wide receiver?

Would a gay man in the military want to be a tailgunner or a rear admiral?

[StonyBurk]

The secret he is keeping is ,Maam-- He LIED when he enlisted. And he has LIED everytime he has been asked.
As a Liar he is NOT trustworthy -and in a military that has
court martialed an Army Medic for a mercy killing-- it
would seem to me a Liar ought not get any re-up bonus.
If he lies about who he's having sex with -What else is he lieing about? --Being wounded in service to his country?

[StonyBurk]

Do believe I read something about some joyboy who wanted
the military to fund his HIV/AIDs treatments claiming it
was service connected. IF they are allowed to serve any more
openly than they already do -it would increas the number of such claims exponentially. Better to let the squishy civillians handle it.

[StonyBurk]

Yeah-right and every reprobate knows it was Adam and Steve
right?

[Cowboy Bob]

He is believed to be the first gay soldier wounded in Iraq to publicly discuss his sexuality, said Aaron Belkin, director of the Center for the Study of Sexual Minorities in the Military at the University of California-Santa Barbara.

You can't make this stuff up!

[50calfrau]

The military has run at least 50 Arab linguists out of the Army since 9/11. I say good. We cannot allow in this God fearing country for our young warriors to go to battle with sodomites, no matter how 'useful' their service is. It has nothing to do with how 'open'or discrete they are. Sodomy should be a crime in this country. They used to lock soldiers up and throw away the key for this evilness. How can we go forth into the Arab world with any sort of righteousness when we allow filth like this man into our army. Scalia had it right when he stood strong for making sodomy a crime.

[50calfrau]

The military has run at least 50 Arab linguists out of the Army since 9/11. I say good. We cannot allow in this God fearing country for our young warriors to go to battle with sodomites, no matter how 'useful' their service is. It has nothing to do with how 'open'or discrete they are. Sodomy should be a crime in this country. They used to lock soldiers up and throw away the key for this evilness. How can we go forth into the Arab world with any sort of righteousness when we allow filth like this man into our army. Scalia had it right when he stood strong for making sodomy a crime.

[Delta 21]

I dont go around flaunting my blatant heterosexuality in peoples faces. Why do the gays feel it necessary to do it? ..and then get pissed when I tell him that I dont want to hear about it? Does it matter that much to them that they just have to make sure that you know that they are homosexual?

How self serving and abominable can you get?

[Zhangliqun]

The fallacy here (no pun intended), is that because he's gay he must be on the make. Why else would we even consider separate barracks?

The fallacy here is that you think all gays would have to be on the make 100% of the time BEFORE it becomes a problem. If we ran everything in life with that kind of thinking, the human race would have been long ago extinct.

Let's try it another way. Just because he's a convicted pedophile he must be on the make. Why else would we even consider prohibiting him from running the nursery? It does not require 100% of pedophiles to be "on the make" at the nursery or coaching the Little League team to make prohibiting them from such positions a sound policy.

Does every child that tries to cross the street have to get hit by a car before we hire a crossing guard? Bad things don't have to happen 100% of the time before it becomes the wise course of action to start thinking of ways to prevent them from happening.

The military cannot operate effectively if even small percentages of its soldiers/sailors/marines have the hots for each other. The job is difficult, dangerous and terrifying enough without the extra problems and distractions that romantic entanglements inevitably create, whether between same or opposite sex: Pregnancy, STD's, jealousy, arguing, harassment, the aftermath of break-ups, playing favorites, etc.

The military is about defending the country as effectively as humanly as possible. Helping people to "self-actualize" is not now, never has been, and never should be anywhere on its agenda.

The question is as simple as is the answer is obvious:

Q: Do we want soldiers humping each other and the inevitable complications that result?

[expatguy]

I remember back in the 70's the homosexuals saying that all they wanted was to be left alone. LOL

[missyme]

I'M NOT GAY SARGEANT BARNES!!!!

[rocksblues]

I remember back in 1966 I had to perform Guard duty on the barracks that housed the Hershey lovers!

[Psycho_Bunny]

As a man serving in very close proximity with young, fit, attractive women, I find it hard to justify keeping openly gay people out of the military.

 How would the average female feel about showering with men and why?

How is that different from straight men showing with gays?

Gays have spent all this time and energy trying to convince the rest of us they have the same feelings as straights, they just have them about the same sex instead of the opposite.  

Well....I'm convinced.  And because I'm convinced, I'll never shower with a gay man or get undressed in front of one:  because he might be looking at me the exactly same way I'd look at some little hot 20 year old chick if she were in the shower with me.

She'd never be comfortable with me, and rightly so.  And I wouldn't be comfortable with a gay guy for the same reason.

And that's why you don't let gays openly serve: elementary human dynamics.

[joe_broadway]

I remember back in the 70's the homosexuals saying that all they wanted was to be left alone. LOL

You thilly gooth, that was just another propaganda line lie from the left. The end justifies the means fella.

They just want to force acceptance of their immorality and perversion-culture upon everyone else.

Indoctrination of the children in the gubmint schools is just part of their plan; they also need those lawless-leftist courts.

[joe_broadway]

Not funny, homosexuality is an abomination.

[LibertarianInExile]

"I know a ton of gay men that would be more than willing to stay in the Army if they could just be open," Stout said in an interview with The Associated Press. "But if we have to stay here and hide our lives all the time, it's just not worth it."

Then WHY THE HELL did you enlist?

[ohioman]

If you want fags in your military move to Europe.

[Former Military Chick]

Simply put, it WILL never happen.

Hey heterosexuals cannot have public display of affection so why would another group think they are above the other's demanding to serve openely.

Hell, build all new barricks, build all new shower's and baths, make sure all the fox holes are identified, gay or not gay and perhaps we will have something to talk about. That I as a chick will not have to wonder if there is someone google eyes over me. OK, might have a bit of an ego but one never knows. There is a point where you just have to say NO and move on.

It is about the morale and unit cohesion, nothing more nothing less.