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Yawn, I knew this was coming.

It's just one of those articles where you laugh and just roll your eyes. I knew sooner or later the frustrated liberals in the press trying to be activists instead of reporters and the liberal lay community would start trying to push groups like Call to Action and the Voice of the Faithful which used the scandal as an impetus for the liberal Catholics in the group to push their hidden, Marxist, liberation-theology agenda.

The liberals in the Church and the Press still can not get over their loss in the presidential election and are now hedging towards a John-Kerry like Pope, pushing for one of the more-liberal South American Cardinals to be named a pope ignoring the Nigerian Cardinal Francis Arinze and other more traditional Cardinals. What they don't know is that even if a liberal cardinal was named, he may speak ill of capitalism but he will not acquiesce with the traditional tenets of the church: abortion, embryonic stem cells, population control, birth control, euthanasia and gay marriage.

The reporters, as usual, failed to note that Call to Action members can be excommunicated and I think some were in Nebraska.

And I have to laugh that the reporters found a democrat, catholic politician who claimed to be a self-described "conservative" Catholic and asked this person questions that the liberals want to hear. The Pope isn't buried and yet they can't keep out their liberal agendas and mouths shut while the world mourns. Shame on all of them.

1 posted on 04/07/2005 1:35:08 PM PDT by Coleus
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2 posted on 04/07/2005 1:35:45 PM PDT by Coleus (God Bless our beloved Pope John Paul II, May he Rest in Peace)
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To: Coleus
"In some ways he was very authoritarian,"

Imagine, a Pope being authoritarian...What's Catholicism coming to?

3 posted on 04/07/2005 1:40:42 PM PDT by frogjerk
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To: Coleus

I'll point out that every time there is a poll of the "majority of American Catholics" they never say whether their sample achieves the minimum level of Catholicity: (1) Do you attend Sunday Mass regularly and (2) If you are married, are you married in the Church?


4 posted on 04/07/2005 1:42:15 PM PDT by wideawake (God bless our brave soldiers and their Commander in Chief)
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Pope had critics, too


5 posted on 04/07/2005 1:42:44 PM PDT by Petronski (I thank God Almighty for a most remarkable blessing: John Paul the Great.)
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To: Coleus

"...polls show..."

My favorite. Polls are a bunch of horse manure and all the arguments that are backed by "polls show" are bunk.


6 posted on 04/07/2005 1:43:24 PM PDT by OpusatFR (Just because you put lipstick on a pig doesn't mean it smells any better.)
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To: Coleus
Even self-described "conservative Catholics," such as Clifton City Councilwoman Gloria Kolodziej, said they would support the ordination of women and married priests in order to resupply the ranks

A quick google shows she is a democrat, what a shock!!!!

The Inside Edge | PoliticsNJ.com, New Jersey's Online Political ... ... member ROBERT YUDIN and Washington Township Councilwoman JANET SOBKOWICZ. ... Clifton Mayor GLORIA KOLODZIEJ, a Democrat who ran as an Independent, ...

8 posted on 04/07/2005 1:44:54 PM PDT by frogjerk
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The more the left speaks about how they didn't like Pope John Paul II the more sorrowful and saddened I am by his passing. This man was a giant to be reckoned with...
12 posted on 04/07/2005 1:49:17 PM PDT by frogjerk
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To: Coleus

Jesus Christ had his critics as well.


14 posted on 04/07/2005 1:50:37 PM PDT by dfwgator (Minutemen: Just doing the jobs that American politicians won't do.)
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To: Coleus
pushing for one of the more-liberal South American Cardinals to be named a pope ignoring the Nigerian Cardinal Francis Arinze and other more traditional Cardinals.

If Cardinal Arinze is elected to be the next Pope I wonder how long it will be before the Libs call him an Uncle Tom?

15 posted on 04/07/2005 1:51:55 PM PDT by frogjerk
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Liberals. If you don't believe what the Church teaches then go form your own church just like the gazillion protestant sects did.


19 posted on 04/07/2005 1:54:27 PM PDT by big'ol_freeper ("Freedom consists not in doing what we like, but in having the right to do what we ought." Pope JPII)
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To: Coleus

For the record, Nancy Pelosi describes herself as a conservative, traditional Catholic.


22 posted on 04/07/2005 1:57:15 PM PDT by dangus
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Polls have shown the majority of American Catholics out of step with church doctrine on issues such as contraception, divorce, homosexual unions, married clergy, and women priests, even as they praised the pope's stance on Third World debt relief and opposition to the Iraq war.


At least they got this right..."the American Catholics are out of step with Church doctrine", not that Church doctrine out of touch with the American Ctholics, which is the way they usually posit it.


30 posted on 04/07/2005 2:18:57 PM PDT by kalee
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Cleary is a member of Voice of the Faithful, a Catholic lay organization formed in 2002 in response to the priest sex-abuse scandal. The group has more than 700 members in New Jersey. "He never really apologized to survivors nor did he acknowledge the vastness of the problem in any kind of an official way," she said.

How quickly they applied label of "priest sex abuse" to bunch of homosexuals who creeped into the ranks of the church. I have not seen that outcry of "american sex abuse" by our lovely gay compatriots was attributed to America and President and demanding apologies.

When Jewish rabbi molested young boys you didn't hear echoes through MSM and lawsuits.

31 posted on 04/07/2005 2:28:06 PM PDT by Leo Carpathian (FReeeePeee!)
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To: Coleus
Pope had critics, too

Well of course - you can't agree with everything someone says, that's hardly a flaw.

In the United States and Latin America, John Paul left a church with declining membership, short on clergy....

I don't know about the US, but the church is most certainly NOT in decline in Latin America - it's part of the Third World - it's on the rise in those parts of the World!

33 posted on 04/07/2005 4:17:05 PM PDT by Irish_Thatcherite (G-d bless John Paul II and Terri Shiavo.)
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