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Taiwan's Chen Heads for Pope's Funeral as China Fumes
Yahoo News (Reuters) ^ | 4/7/05

Posted on 04/07/2005 8:59:23 AM PDT by bloggodocio

Thu Apr 7, 6:06 AM ET By Alice Hung and Lindsay Beck

TAIPEI/BEIJING (Reuters) - Taiwan President Chen Shui-bian left on Thursday for an unprecedented visit to the Vatican to attend the funeral of Pope John Paul, undermining chances of the Holy See switching ties from Taipei to Beijing.

The Pope's death last Saturday offered an opportunity for detente between Beijing and the Vatican, but China said it was dismayed Chen, president of an island Beijing considers part of its own territory, had been granted a visa and that China would not send an envoy to the funeral.

Beijing cut relations with the Holy See in 1951, two years after the Communists came to power, and expelled foreign clergy. Believers must attend state-sanctioned churches that pledge loyalty to Beijing, although many secretly acknowledge the Pope's authority.

"We have already expressed our dissatisfaction with the Vatican and the Italian side," Chinese Foreign Ministry Qin Gang told a news briefing in Beijing.

Chen's one-day visit to Taiwan's only European ally marks a diplomatic breakthrough for the self-ruled island.

Chen is the first Taiwan president to set foot in Europe while in office. The Vatican is one of only 25 states, mostly Third World countries in Africa and Latin America, that officially recognize Taipei.

The rest of the world has diplomatic ties with China.

Describing his trip as a "journey of peace," Chen said he hoped to join world leaders to pay respect to the Pope and cement diplomatic ties with the Holy See.

"As the Vatican's most faithful partner, we will make every effort to follow the example set by the Pope," Chen said before leaving for Rome on a chartered plane.

"Taiwan will pursue lasting peace in the Taiwan Strait and open the door of reconciliation and dialogue between both sides to respond to the expectations of the international community," said Chen.

He was accompanied by Taiwan Foreign Minister Mark Chen as well as Catholic and Muslim leaders.

But Beijing's Qin said Chen's aim was not to mourn the Pope but to play politics.

"His real purpose is to take the opportunity to engage in secessionist actions to create two Chinas -- one China and one Taiwan -- which is what we firmly oppose," he said.

The row follows comments by Joseph Zen, the head of the Hong Kong Roman Catholic diocese, on Tuesday that the Vatican is reluctantly ready to cut ties with Taiwan and recognize China if Beijing can guarantee religious freedom.

But the Vatican denied any change to its position and Taiwan's Foreign Ministry said the island's ties with the Holy See remained strong.

China and the Vatican have shown signs of rapprochement in the past only to hit new lows, and analysts say Beijing, concerned about challenges to Communist Party rule, is unlikely to relinquish control over religious groups.

TOPICS: Foreign Affairs
The Vatican being the only European body to recognize Taiwan, I wonder if President Chen today must be thinking "What a friend we have in Jesus"?


1 posted on 04/07/2005 8:59:23 AM PDT by bloggodocio
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To: bloggodocio

Put some ice on it, China.

2 posted on 04/07/2005 9:00:38 AM PDT by dfwgator (It's sad that the news media treats Michael Jackson better than our military.)
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To: dfwgator

I was talking to a friend of mine who is in the process of being ordained by the orthodox church. We were spectulating on the mystery cardinal. Most including us believe him to be Chinese. He took it further and spectulated on the possiblity of hime being the next pope. After all the Vatican is keen on expanding into China and it took a Polish Pope to end communism in Poland.

3 posted on 04/07/2005 9:03:56 AM PDT by TXBSAFH (Never underestimate the power of human stupidity--Robert Heinlein)
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To: bloggodocio
"We have already expressed our dissatisfaction with the Vatican and the Italian side,"

Oh poor baby, now go cry in your pillow. The Vatican is the only country of any importance with the balls to recognize the real China. The rest of the world should follow its lead, including our President who seems to have none on certain subjects.

4 posted on 04/07/2005 9:05:01 AM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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Yep, I think there are some very nervous people in the Chinese Politburo right now.

5 posted on 04/07/2005 9:05:07 AM PDT by dfwgator (It's sad that the news media treats Michael Jackson better than our military.)
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To: bloggodocio

So the Pope's death was an "opportunity" to improve relations with Bejing?? What would be the basis of that opportunity, is China democratizing, or lessening religious repression, or forsaking aggression against democratic Taiwan? No, the Pope's death is not an "opportunity" for leftist fantasies.

6 posted on 04/07/2005 9:07:21 AM PDT by Williams
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To: dfwgator

Mainland china has nothing to say about what Taiwan does.

7 posted on 04/07/2005 9:08:24 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: bloggodocio
Screw Beijing.

Let's all stand for TAIWAN in this incredible moment of history, President Chen of Taiwan going to Vatican, and rubbing it in the Communist's faces.

To hell with Asian Bolshevism, to hell with the Peoples' Republic of Wal-Mart.

You go guy! (President Chen).

8 posted on 04/07/2005 9:09:41 AM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (**AT THE END OF THE DAY, IT IS NOT SO MUCH "WHO" WE STAND FOR, BUT RATHER "WHAT" WE STAND FOR**)
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To: bloggodocio

And Taiwan's latest "crime" here is to attend the Pope's funeral and show respect? This article is a nice little glimpse at what passes for justice among the liberals. The passing of a great Pope is seen as an opportunity for China to get over on the Church and further isolate a democracy. IMHO the liberals should, and probably will, rot in Hell.

9 posted on 04/07/2005 9:09:54 AM PDT by Williams
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Communist China is in a cleft stick. The don't want to recognize any Church but the tame National Church, so they have rebuffed all the Vatican's diplomatic iniatives. Very possibly the Vatican would have agreed to cut ties with Taiwan like most of the rest of the world, if not for this one sticking point.

China observed what happened in Poland, and they were filled with fear. They don't want to permit any kind of free Church to take hold in their country, or they might go the same way as Poland and the Soviet Union.

China pretty much forced the other countries to switch embassies to Beijing, but they can't do that with the Vatican as long as the Vatican holds out for a free Church; and the Vatican hasn't much choice on that issue. They can't abandon the Chinese underground Church or the Chinese martyrs and saints.

10 posted on 04/07/2005 9:52:20 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: bloggodocio

Norman Greenbaum wrote that song one street over from where I live. The old Italian ladies used to throw clothespins at him.

11 posted on 04/07/2005 10:18:23 AM PDT by massgopguy (massgopguy)
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To: antiRepublicrat

They'll round up some Catholics in China for a good beating, I suspect.

Nobody will complain.

12 posted on 04/07/2005 10:19:43 AM PDT by Finalapproach29er (America is gradually becoming the Godless,out-of-control golden-calf scene,in "The Ten Commandments")
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