Posted on 04/06/2005 7:32:35 PM PDT by churchillbuff
you two have your opinion on that and Teddy R and many other modern Americans have this opinion:
"To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public."
"The President is merely the most important among a large number of public servants. He should be supported or opposed exactly to the degree which is warranted by his good conduct or bad conduct, his efficiency or inefficiency in rendering loyal, able, and disinterested service to the Nation as a whole. Therefore it is absolutely necessary that there should be full liberty to tell the truth about his acts, and this means that it is exactly necessary to blame him when he does wrong as to praise him when he does right. Any other attitude in an American citizen is both base and servile. To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public. Nothing but the truth should be spoken about him or any one else. But it is even more important to tell the truth, pleasant or unpleasant, about him than about any one else."
"Roosevelt in the Kansas City Star", 149 May 7, 1918
Like the highly trained professional soldiers they are, these guys are SAVING lives...
I agree with you it doesn't do much good to trash the President personally.
But I have a sense of betrayal in the way he has commented on illegal immigration: "Our immigration laws are outdated." (State of the Union) and attacking the minuteman as "irrational vigilantes" before they had done ANYTHING.
I campaigned for George W. Bush, I supported him, I took hits on his behalf and I have BELIEVED in him. (And, so have minutemen volunteers.) I respect him as President but I must be honest about my mixed feelings at this point. He's done nothing to soften the betrayal.
Good point. A coworker has Spanish Dagger (Yucca) on her property in Ash Canyon, and her side yard is one of the trails used for illegals headed north. She found bloody bandages one morning, somebody had walked right into the leaves of a Spanish Dagger.
THis is not a betrayal. This is a way of solidifying Republican hold on the Hispanic vote, as well as securing for employers a stready stream of low wage labor.
Another way to thinnk of this is to consider that America is a big country, we can accomodate lots of new folks. From what I understand, there is lots of empty space out West, ready to be filled with houses and highways. And these immigrants are just the folks to do it.
Thank God the minute man found him before Judge Greer did, and he was fed, hydrated and returned to Mexico before Greer could order that he be given no food or water.
bttt
May the long journey of returning lawyers and lawering to the position of respect it never had and never merited, begin with you
Well, that explains it! You're a Connecticut resident! The problem is abstract for you. Out West, where you believe there is so much room, it's getting mighty crowded. And our state budgets are going bust, drained to provide social services, healthcare and education for illegals and their kids. I live with the problems of illegal immigration every day. In addition to the economic drain, there is an anti-American cultural impact.
But then ... your profile states you're "not as informed as other FReepers." Maybe you want to stay that way, because if you read through the immigration threads you will learn a lot about why this is a major crisis in our country.
It's easy for you to believe what you like about immigration if you don't live in one of the heavily affected states and you don't care to become informed. Sean Hannity, a big fan of the President, lives in New Jersey and he expresses the need to address illegal immigration every day.
For me, it is principle over party and principle over person. For you, it is the opposite.
He's yanking your chain. Picture Carville, sitting in his basement...Anything to make Republicans look bad.
There are benefits in receving immigrants and teaching them, but they must be received lawfully. I sense there has been neglect on the part of local, state, and federal authorities in maintaining the lawful reception of these people. This results in a disservice to all concerned - the immigrant and the American citizen.
As long as the Minuteman efforts remain within the law, I welcome their efforts. But there must ceetainly be elements out there who are ready and willing to stir up sh!t.
Let me enlighten you, Teplukin, on why most of us feel so strongly about illegal aliens. We believe in putting America first, and insist on preserving American sovereignty, borders, language, culture and customs. This cannot be accomplished until we--once and for all--stop the flood of illegal aliens into our country. Simple, really.
Not here a year yet and already aligned with the SOILs. Fasten your seatbelt, Teplukin, you're in for a bumpy ride.
That is exactly how the Minutemen are functioning - simply as extra sets of eyes for the Border Patrol. Do not engage (except to render medical aid in this case), call Border Patrol with a location.
Yet Airhead America continues to spew that they are a bunch of Aryan Nation types playing sniper.
Thank You Kind Sir or Madam! I am forever mindful that each and every word and deed reflects on the profession as a whole. Too many seem to have lost sight of that fact, or never understood it at the outset.
My best, Conservative Goddess (allow me my fantasy!)
It doesn't matter if it keeps people in or out. The fact that it is an effective barrier is all the matters in relation to border control. Just reverse the graded zones of security and there you go.
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