Officials Ask Why Iraq Details Surface Now

AP ^ | 5/6/05 | KATHERINE SHRADER

[Mr. Jeeves]

Tenet also said it was "stunning and deeply disturbing that this information, if true, was never brought forward to me by anyone" when the Iraq intelligence was scrutinized.

Ah, the age-old cry of the prevaricator. ;)

[Dilbert56]

Yes, the Senate report was replete with "Curveball" references. This is the first time I heard he was working with Germany and we were getting it second hand.

As for us knowing he didn't have them, I doubt it. If the President thought Saddam didn't have them he would have stressed the other causus belli (causa belli? causi belli?) rather than WMD.

Out troops should have been protected against chemical weapons. They war those ungodly suits all the way to Baghdad.

[Marine_Uncle]

"Read them. Be informed. Bitch slap the "Bush Lied" crowd with honest rebuttals.".
Thanks for the support. Well versed reply. Folks here should be able to know enough to smack down the minions who only watch L/MSM, who will be bitching that the POTUS is at fault.
If you don't read the report and already do not understand the whole picture or whereabouts, how can one effectively explain to anyone willing to at least listen that the administration and congress where mislead. Again as others have ably made note, we went to war with Iraq for a number of reasons. And in this we are not making half assed excuses for the POTUS.

[TexKat]

Anyone else notice the roll of GERMANY in this...

Bump!!

Inside 9-11 What Really Happened

by The Reporters, Writers, and Editors of Der Spiegel Magazine

[TexKat]

Thanks for the link Marine_Uncle.

[Marine_Uncle]

Thanks for the link Marine_Uncle.".
Quite welcome TexKat. I posted earlier this week in news/activism on where the report can be had. No one replied.
Thanks for this post.

[Marine_Uncle]

"This is the first time I heard he was working with Germany and we were getting it second hand."

Imagine how Collin must have felt after the fact. He stood in the UN security council and showed the world the pictures of the mobile bio weapon labs, etc., while the sleezy Germans and French pricks just sat there and quietly laughted. I can see why Tenet (a Clinton appointee) wanted out, so that he could "spend some quality time with his family". Yea right on. He probably has not sleeped since he left the Directorship. Now as indicated Carl Levin and other blow mouths will try to turn the tide against the POTUS. And the blood thirsty L/MSM commies will be right behind him, barking and knashing their teeth.

[Dilbert56]

The silence from Europe on this has been deafening. When we said Saddam was still producing WMD no one objected. Tony Blair stood up at a G8 meeting and challenged the heads of all those countries saying that their intelligence agencies were telling them the same things. Again, no one disputed it.

When the WMD turned up missing, those countries were in no position to complain since they had believed the same things and agreed with them. Thank goodness. Too bad the Democrats decided not to take that approach. Their position is that when BJ Clinton and every Democrat Senator said Saddam had WMD it was true but when President Bush said the same thing it was a lie.

One thing in the WMD report that stood out was how the CIA took the political view. At the UN, Saddam had to prove he disarmed. We didn't have to prove he still had them. The CIA was faulted for approaching the problem the same way. They were assumed to have the weapons as the default case.

Another was the admission in the report that, if anyone looked at all the information, especially Saddam's behavior, the committee doubted anyone would have concluded he had secretly, unilaterally disarmed. They did criticize the CIA for not being able to at least imagine that scenario.

To me the net of all this is Saddam was waving a gun at us and we weren't willing to bet it had blanks.

[Marine_Uncle]

To me the net of all this is Saddam was waving a gun at us and we weren't willing to bet it had blanks."

All you wrote surely is second by many of us at FreeRep. I do hope folks have downloaded the report and will take the time to at least wade through chapter one. Clearly as you indicate, not only the CIA but the other key agencies, mostly had no solid information to go on to indicate that Saddam was mostly bluffing it. To me, it not an excuse by the agencies in question based on how they where set up to gather/analyis the various forms of data, to in effect, admit they simply did not have a real picture as to what Iraq had been up to after the first Golf War. To much had to be assumed, based on old data and similiar sentiments of most EU nation's Intellegience orgs. Of course Americans and most Europe will never have a clue as how all where mislead and just shrug it off. It is to easy to blame the US for being the only ones at fault.
Like you said. The POTUS was not willing to bet Saddam cleaned up his act. Saddam gave us no indications they stopped WMD development and productions in almost all it's various forms. And we did not have reliable HUMINT to confirm the fact. So bingo his statue came a tumbling down.