Hail to G. W. Bush - the Robber Baron?

The Harvard Crimson ^ | Wednesday, April 06, 2005 | YOSHI TSURUMI - Bush's former business prof.

[superiorslots]

Steve
I'm not sure how he got his numbers either for the last 4 years. I think the salaries rose that high under clinton also. I think he was saying that currently the ceo's salaries are 600-1000 times higher than the employees which is correct.

Read the uSA article last week. It's sickning. Not just the salaries but the unbeleivable perks. While at the same time the rank and file employees are paying more for their health care and are losing their pensions or are being outsourced, layed off etc.

[Mark in the Old South]

I agree with you, Garafelo is way off base suggesting Bush would have interned the Japanese. Bush would have opened the border wide open to them. Demanded Americans have passports to drive to the corner store, tied the hands of American fighting men, charged Patton with a war crime, and funded Auschwitz overseas while claiming the holocaust was a crime here at home.

[RockinRight]

Sounds great Mark, but here's the problem. These two words describe the result of such a party:

President Hillary.

A better solution is to re-take the GOP.

[RockinRight]

I know people that are socially conservative, pro-gun, and support tax reform that still vote Dem because the Republicans are (in their minds) the "big-business" party and all "racists" and all that garbage.

[RockinRight]

By the way, Mike Pence can do all those things you mention.

[Mark in the Old South]

Re: "President Hillary."

I don't know about that, perhaps. One of the reasons I recommend a platform that is critical of the corporate culture is because it might peal away voters from the DNC as well as the social conservative from the GOP. I think most people look at dims as much in the pocket of corporations but differ in degree. Give them a real choice and they may consider the switch. Also the race card has to be considered. I am a Catholic convert but I would be very hesitant to vote for Buchannan because I perceive him as a little racist, and I am a born and bred white Southerner. If he strikes me so just consider what the Black community feels, so Pence will need to pass the sniff test. I do not know him. Also the GOP is so corrupt I have serious trust issues, fear of commitment so to speak. I cite the Santorum syndrome, talks the talk but stabs us in the back. He has been hanging with Specter too long. Considering it has only been 6 years in the Senate it is not looking very promising that Santorum will pull out of it. I fear he is terminal and will need the feeding tube pulled this November.

I wish your man the best of luck but the GOP will need to deliver or perish.

[BubbaTex]

I like your first hand knowledge.

But are you a victim of spell chek

Hee,hee.

[GianniV]

While I assume these statistics are correct, what does that have to do with the Bush Administration? It's not the job of the President to tell corporations what to pay people. If corporations overpay execs (an opinion), then the employees and stockholders should rise up against it.

The last thing I want is our government investigating and dictating wages of anyone. It's bad enough with the stupid minimum wage laws.

[GianniV]

Right on the button. You know what socialism really is? It's my three buddies and I having a few brews and commenting that "if we could run the economy, we'd do it right." Of course, we wouldn't have a clue how to run 99% of the industries in this great land and thankfully, our alcohol-fueled exuberance won't put us in great positions of power. But, that is what socialism/liberalism is - actually THINKING that you and your friends have all the answers for the other 300 million people in the US. As Hayek pointed out, socialism is utterly arrogant and ludicrous.

[perfect stranger]

BTTT

[bonfire]

Well, of course he only made it thru because of his name...... :)

[gaspar]

I'm sorry, I just don't trust that data. Suppose the average worker receves 40K a year, that means that the CEO would make 24-40 million. There are few who pull that down, mostly through stock options, but not very many.

[an amused spectator]

To privatize Social Security, he is peddling a colossal lie about its solvency.

Hey, if Social Security is solvent, cut me a check for what I have into it. To paraphrase Tom in It's A Wonderful Life, a few measly thousand isn't going to break anybody.

I'll see pigs fly before they cut my check...

Which is what tells me it's a pyramid scheme.

[Sonny M]

Well, of course he only made it thru because of his name...... :)

Take this guys class, according to him (on certain days), he tried to fail him...only because of his name.

Yoshi (and I had him as a teacher last year) had it in for Bush just because of his father, Yoshi followed politics, and since he had Bush as a student, his mental health has worsened. He needs help, his collegues know this, and so does the rest of the faculty, and many of whom agree with his politics, know, he has issues, as a student, I was clear, he is nuts.

For the record, I got a pretty good grade in his class, and thats in spite of the fact that he has issues. He needs help, not attention.

[Sonny M]

I've got to learn HTML so I can post this pic, whenever this idiot former professor of mine writes an article, he opens his mouth, and the value of my MBA drops.

I had this jackass as my teacher, and after I told him more then once, repeatedly, that McKinley's adviser was Mark Hanna (I used to almost scream this to him, including telling him the bio), he still calls the guy Mark Hunter.

After awhile, you start to go as nuts as he is.

For perspective, on my first day in class, he gave us a conspiracy theory about how the Bush family was suppressing media coverage about him. His fellow professors (aka my other teachers) describe him as "He's harmless" or "he's weird but not dangerous" or "He's eccentric". Tells you alot doesn't it?

[Sonny M]

Also the race card has to be considered.

I thought it should be noted, the writer of this article (also a former professor of mine), if you talk about race or ethnicity, is pretty much a anti-american/japanese nationalist.

You may or may not know what its like to sit through class after class listening to a lunatic whose grip on reality is gone, but who insists on bashing American, and in comparision, praising Japan, like it was a nation of the 2nd coming of jesus.

He does play the race card, but in the most dishonest way, long story short, anything you can say about McKinley, you could say about FDR, but watch him explode if you do so.

To him, America is bad, and Japan is great, and we are will suffer, and they (are)will thrive.

[superiorslots]

Quote: I'm sorry, I just don't trust that data. Suppose the average worker receves 40K a year, that means that the CEO would make 24-40 million. There are few who pull that down, mostly through stock options, but not very many


Read the USA today article. The top 100 ceo's are making 25 million and on up. The guy from United tech is making 98 million per year + perks. The 24-40 million you quoted was actually at the bottom of the pay scale. These numbers were not pulled out of thin air but from the corporate balance sheets

[Mark in the Old South]

Japan is just a plane ticket away. I suggest he take advantage of it. Still I am having a great deal of trouble seeing this country as great myself these days. Abortion, Euthanasia, out of control courts, politicians who appear corrupt and surely out of touch, I could go on and on. I am looking long and hard at Israel or Portugal myself.