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To: donh; Alamo-Girl; marron; cornelis; Ronzo
Where's Timothy Leary when we need him?

LOLOLOLOL dohn!!!!!

Well objective reality deserves some attention, it seems, because it is the context in which we experience our existential contingency. This is a different problem from the quest for Truth.

Don't be misguided by the so-called "Cartesian split," the body/mind "disjunction" that led to the magnification of the body (matter) at the expense of soul (mind, consciousness, spirit). I strongly doubt Descartes ever intended the meaning that has been imposed on his insights by the bright boys of post-modernism.

I think the point is Life is both matter (objective) and mind (subjective), two synergistic complementarities that together constitute a living being as a unified One. Like matter/energy; particles/waves; space/time -- that sort of fundamental complementarity.

I think we need to keep our eye on both: That is, objectivity and subjectivity, in our quest of the truth of existence within the divine economy, in which we are both contingent participants, and creative agents with extensions beyond the physical world, into eternity.

I just loved your juxtaposition of George Berkeley and Ayn Rand: Very droll!

Thank you oh so much, dohn, for your provocative insights!

p.s.: If you're making a study of subjectivity, and think Tim Leary might be a good guide, might I suggest another? Have you ever read the works of Carlos Castenada? What started out as a serious, disciplined sociological/anthropological study turned into a really wild ride, once Carlos met the Yaqui shamen, Don Juan....

625 posted on 04/11/2005 11:36:13 PM PDT by betty boop (If everyone is thinking alike, then no one is thinking. -- Gen. George S. Patton)
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To: betty boop
Thank you so much for your engaging post!

Don't be misguided by the so-called "Cartesian split," the body/mind "disjunction" that led to the magnification of the body (matter) at the expense of soul (mind, consciousness, spirit). I strongly doubt Descartes ever intended the meaning that has been imposed on his insights by the bright boys of post-modernism.

So very true! This very subject needs to be tackled head-on.

629 posted on 04/12/2005 8:46:39 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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