I think one of the curiosities in this thread is that we have not even been able to agree on definitions yet. That's why I started out with some. The entire notion of having experts on one side or another does not speak to knowledge at all. It speaks to belief. That line of reasoning is not dedicated to the discovery of truth but to the bending of others to your will. So many people think that is thought, and they could not be more wrong.
If you're going to tell me that biologists have biology all wrong, geologists have geology all wrong, and/or paleontologists have paleontology all wrong, have an argument other than "Dr. Walt Brown has an engineering degree from Emmm ... Eye ... Teeee!!!!"