Papal Funeral Will Follow Ancient, Unique Rite

CAtholic World News ^ | 4/6/05

[ninenot]

The JSBach realization begins with a 3-beat dance, in D Major.

In the "Gloria Patri" section, he uses triplets in the 3-beat measures (Trinitarian reference, anyone...?)

And he uses some Chant in the oboes when the Soprano sings one of her solos. The Chant is very obscure (especially nowadays) and is used only on one Feast day (IIRC the Annunciation) at Vespers.

Friggin' genius he was...

[ninenot]

I dunno. "Piazza" has worked for Italians for about 1500 years...

[eastsider]

OK, Mr. Priss.

I make a motion that this goes on your profile page, Romulus.

[NYer]

The JSBach realization begins with a 3-beat dance, in D Major.

BWV 243		Magnificat in D-Dur
1. Coro Tromba I-III, Timpani, Flauto traverso I/II, Oboe I/II, Violino I/II, Viola, Continuo		Magnificat anima mea Dominum.
2. Aria S.II Violino I/II, Viola, Continuo		Et exsultavit spiritus meus in Deo salutari meo.
3. Aria S.I Oboe d'amore I, Continuo		Quia respexit humilitatem ancillae suae; ecce enim ex hoc beatam me dicent
4. Coro Flauto traverso I/II, Oboe d'amore I/II, Violino I/II, Viola, Continuo		Omnes generationes.
5. Aria B Continuo		Quia fecit mihi magna qui potens est, et sanctum nomen eius.
6. Aria (Duetto) A T Flauto traverso I e Violino I all' unisono, Flauto traverso II e Violino II all' unisono, Viola, Continuo		Et misericordia a progenie in progenies timentibus eum.
7. Coro Tromba I-III, Timpani, Flauto traverso I/II, Oboe I/II, Violino I/II, Viola, Continuo		Fecit potentiam in brachio suo, dispersit superbos mente cordis sui.
8. Aria T Violini all' unisono, Continuo		Deposuit potentes de sede et exaltavit humiles.
9. Aria A Flauto traverso I/II, Continuo		Esurientes implevit bonis et divites dimisit inanes.
10. Aria (Terzetto) S.I S.II A Oboe I/II all' unisono, Organo e Violoncelli senza, Violone e Bassoni		Suscepit Israel puerum suum recordatus misericordiae suae.
11. Coro Continuo		Sicut locutus est ad Patres nostros, Abraham et semini eius in saecula.
12. Coro Tromba I-III, Timpani, Flauto traverso I/II, Oboe I/II, Violino I/II, Viola, Organo e Continuo		Gloria Patri, gloria Filio, gloria et Spiritui Sancto! Sicut erat in principio et nunc et semper et in saecula saeculorum. Amen.

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Besetzung		Soli: S.I S.II A T B, Coro: S.I S.II A T B, Tromba I-III, Timpani, Flauto traverso I/II, Oboe I/II, Oboe d'amore I/II, Violino I/II, Viola, Continuo (+ Violoncello, Violone, Fagotto)
Entstehungszeit		1728/31
Text		Lukas 1,46-55

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[CitizenM]

Thank you marshmallow. I was just researching this, but got sidetracked trying to get other info. about the College of Cardinals.

Posted: The College of Cardinals - What is it, why is it, what they do, and who they are to help us all. It is even confusing to Catholics who have not experienced this process for 26 years.

Once this is all over we will certainly understand much (not all, but that's ok, the secrecy is appreciated) of these proceedings. Wish the media would do the same. Ah, well...coverage has been constant, I am glad of that.

I just read that the total number of pilgrims expected is now predicted to be 4 Million!!! What a testimony to this saintly man John Paul, The Great.

No one can ignore these numbers, no matter how hard the liberal media tries to debase his impact on the world. I haven't read the New York Times' article today, but I heard it was negative.

[sinkspur]

Sorry, Tex; there aren't any plazas in Rome.

Golly, professor. Lookie at what I found:

The popular Campo dei Fiori market in the historic center, occupying an entire piazza, has been an institution since 1477, when it was moved from the Piazza Navona. Cardinals and noblemen mingled with fishmongers and foreigners, making it one of the liveliest areas of medieval and renaissance Rome. Lively, indeed: Many of the piazza's inns were once owned by the 15th century courtesan Vanozza Catanei, who was mistress of Pope Alexander VI Borgia.

Source.

As you know, professor, "piazza" is Italian for "plaza."

There are many other piazzas in Rome. I can list them if you'd like.

[Romulus]

I got a million of 'em!

[Romulus]

As you know, professor, "piazza" is Italian for "plaza."

And "platz" is German. Here in New Orleans we have Jackson Square, in the old days called the "Place d'Armes". Which in the other old days, was called the "Plaza de Armas". So glad to see you coming along in your language studies.

I know monoglot Americans fumbling to communicate abroad commonly offer up Tex-Mex lingo in the hope that the locals will comprende. It's all "foreign", after all. Just remember, Tex: Romans aren't Mexicans. Capisce?

[dangus]

>> Wonder who will represent the USA at Prince Ranier's services? <<

I hear William Bennett.

[Romulus]

Hahahaha!

[ninenot]

Capisce?

Nein, Mein Herr.

But I DO Geh'r Steh'

[sinkspur]

Dance, dance, dance.

You're approaching the incoherence of your Big Easy buddy.

[CitizenM]

This is a link to the Vatican Television Network that will broadcast the Funeral of Pope John Paul, II. Friday: 10am Rome time - 4am Eastern US time. Live Transmission of The Funeral of PJP,II

Does anyone know what FOX, CNN, or any of the other old networks are doing?

[pleasedontzotme]

Fox starts their coverage at 3 AM; I'm sure that everyone else will be on by the time the funeral comes on as well.

I may have to go to bed early tomorrow night; this is history I want to see live. But 4 AM...yeesh.

[Guillermo]

He wasn't talking about pizzeria's, sheesh.

[Fudd Fan]

ETWN's listing says their coverage begins 4am-7amEDT, then encore presentation at 9:30amEDT

[CitizenM]

Yep, me too. We have our tapes ready. This is something I want to keep for my children who, I know, will never get up to watch it. Luckily I have the option. Thanks for the info.

[Miss Marple]

In order for me to watch, I am going to have to get up at 2AM. I am going to do it, but I will have my sleep messed up for the entire weekend.