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Helicopter crashes, deaths reported (Afghanistan)
news.com.au ^ | 4/6/05

Posted on 04/06/2005 5:17:42 AM PDT by jmc1969

A US military CH-47 Chinook helicopter has crashed in south-eastern Afghanistan, with officials saying the bodies of at least two Americans have been recovered from the wreckage.

The US military had no official confirmation of the number of casualties from the accident in Ghazni province, US military spokeswoman Lieutenant Cindy Moore said.

But provincial governor Asadullah Khalid said a number of people had died in the crash in Dah Khudaidad district, 2.5km south-west of the provincial capital, Ghazni city.

"I went to the crash site," Mr Khalid said.

"We took two bodies out of the helicopter. There were more than two people in the helicopter.

"They were Americans" he said, without elaborating how he knew their nationality.

Mr Khalid said the crash was due to "bad weather".

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To: jmc1969; Admin Moderator

I'd do it like this.

AM, looks like a major crash 80 miles south of Kabul.


21 posted on 04/06/2005 6:25:25 AM PDT by leadpenny
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To: Phsstpok
"Replacing them means going with the V-22 Osprey"

Why does it mean that? New helicopters are both safe and fast.
22 posted on 04/06/2005 6:27:55 AM PDT by monday
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To: leadpenny; Admin Moderator

I think the Mods have said to hit the abuse button to contact them..


23 posted on 04/06/2005 6:29:58 AM PDT by mystery-ak (Im twitterpatted)
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To: mystery-ak

In either case, this thread has slipped off of the Front Page sidebar already.

I know the mods have gotten real strict with what goes on BN but it would seem this should be there.


24 posted on 04/06/2005 6:37:46 AM PDT by leadpenny
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To: leadpenny

I'll try to bump it...


25 posted on 04/06/2005 6:39:08 AM PDT by mystery-ak (Im twitterpatted)
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To: mystery-ak

btt


26 posted on 04/06/2005 6:43:28 AM PDT by mystery-ak (Im twitterpatted)
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To: mystery-ak

another btt


27 posted on 04/06/2005 6:54:19 AM PDT by mystery-ak (become a monthly donor)
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To: jmc1969

bump


28 posted on 04/06/2005 7:22:53 AM PDT by leadpenny
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To: dead

ping


29 posted on 04/06/2005 7:26:34 AM PDT by mystery-ak (become a monthly donor)
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To: mystery-ak; Admin Moderator

Sometimes the mods can just be obstinate.

I'm going to go take it out on someone in traffic or at work.


30 posted on 04/06/2005 7:27:27 AM PDT by leadpenny
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To: mystery-ak

Thanks for the ping. It's just awful news.


31 posted on 04/06/2005 7:29:40 AM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: leadpenny

LOL....drive safely..


32 posted on 04/06/2005 7:29:53 AM PDT by mystery-ak (become a monthly donor)
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To: monday

There is nothing in anyone's inventory (except the Russians, and I don't want to be buying from them) that can replace the CH-47 other than the V-22 at the present time.


33 posted on 04/06/2005 7:47:52 AM PDT by Phsstpok ("When you don't know where you are, but you don't care, you're not lost, you're exploring.")
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To: leadpenny

I didn't mention the term "hanger queens."

Where did that come from?

Is that because I mentioned that the CH-47 has had crashes?

That was not a slam of the CH-47, but meant to ridicule those who damn the V-22 because it has had crashes. I don't think there's ever been a military aircraft that didn't have crashes during testing. That's why they call it testing.

But there is a luddite chorus who want to kill the V-22 and they are using the crashes a couple of years ago as "proof" that the V-22 MUST be canceled.

And do what? Keep flying even older designs that have had more crashes?


34 posted on 04/06/2005 7:51:26 AM PDT by Phsstpok ("When you don't know where you are, but you don't care, you're not lost, you're exploring.")
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To: jmc1969

That dust in Afghanistan is very bad.


35 posted on 04/06/2005 8:22:28 AM PDT by CheneyChick
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To: jmc1969
Last Updated: Wednesday, 6 April, 2005, 15:39 GMT 16:39 UK
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'No survivors' in US Afghan crash
A US military helicopter has crashed in south-eastern Afghanistan killing at least nine people, four of them crew, the US military says.

The CH-47 Chinook went down in bad weather in the province of Ghazni, spokeswoman Lt Cindy Moore told the Associated Press news agency.

Lt Moore said it appeared that there were no survivors.

US forces have suffered a number of fatal air accidents in Afghanistan since ousting the Taleban in 2001.

The helicopter was one of two Chinooks flying to the main US base at Bagram, north of Kabul, from a routine mission in southern Afghanistan.

"Indications are it was bad weather and that there were no survivors," Lt Moore said.

CHINOOK CH-47
A US Chinook CH-47 helicopter lands to pick up troops in Afghanistan
Twin-engined aircraft with two, three-bladed rotors
Used to move soldiers, weapons and supplies
Can carry 54 troops or 25,000 lbs (11,340 kg) of freight - more than its own weight
Crew of four

It was the worst air crash suffered by US forces in Afghanistan since they toppled the Taleban at the end of 2001, she added.

The seven previous accidents claimed 21 lives.

The identity of the passengers killed on Wednesday is still unclear. The second helicopter arrived safely at Bagram airfield.

Ghazni governor Assadullah Khalid told Reuters news agency that local officials had recovered two bodies from the crash site.

"We recovered two American soldiers' bodies and now American forces are in control of the situation. The chopper was burning when we were there," he said.

Helicopters from the Bagram base have been used as part of a US offensive against suspected al-Qaeda and Taleban members in remote areas of the country.


36 posted on 04/06/2005 8:57:02 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (This tagline no longer operative....floated away in the flood of 2005 ,)
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To: jmc1969

Prayers going out to the families.


37 posted on 04/06/2005 9:03:37 AM PDT by armymarinemom (My sons freed Iraqi and Afghanistan Honor Roll students.)
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To: Phsstpok
But there is a luddite chorus who want to kill the V-22 and they are using the crashes a couple of years ago as "proof" that the V-22 MUST be canceled.

Spin, spin, spin.

38 posted on 04/06/2005 9:04:16 AM PDT by balrog666 (A myth by any other name is still inane.)
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To: Phsstpok
I thought the CH-47 was a heavy lift aircraft while the V-22 was medium lift designed to replace helicopters like the Pave Low and Sea Knight?

This link shows upgrades to the CH-47 that make it essentially a new machine.

http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ac/h-47.htm

Also, I thought the V-22 was scheduled to enter limited service in 2006? Most are going to the Navy with a few to the Air Force, so I doubt there would be many in Afghanistan or Iraq even if it were in service already.
39 posted on 04/06/2005 9:11:43 AM PDT by monday
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To: mystery-ak

Prayers for those aboard and their families.


40 posted on 04/06/2005 9:14:13 AM PDT by MEG33 (GOD BLESS OUR ARMED FORCES)
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