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1 posted on 04/05/2005 8:21:30 PM PDT by crushelits
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"This is so much more than about boxing," said Mary Croissant, who taught with Zerlentes at Front Range Community College. "She was the Energizer Bunny of our campus. She was turbo woman.

Spare us.

2 posted on 04/05/2005 8:25:18 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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While women's boxing isn't likely to ever come close to reaching the status of the men's side — the sport is a longshot to be added for the 2008 Beijing Olympics

If so it'll just be another on the now fairly long list of new and ridiculous Olympic "sports."

3 posted on 04/05/2005 8:27:33 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: crushelits

No boxing--this is NCAA:


Catastrophic-injury research
Direct injuries

The number of direct injuries per 100,000 participants for college sports from 1982-83 through 1995-96:

Male

Sport -- Fatalities -- Nonfatal -- Serious

Baseball -- 0.68 -- 0.00 -- 0.34

Basketball -- 0.00 -- 0.54 -- 1.09

Cross country -- 0.00 -- 0.00 -- 0.00

Football -- 0.48 -- 1.71 -- 5.81

Gymnastics -- 0.00 -- 27.44 -- 9.14

Ice hockey -- 0.00 -- 5.49 -- 5.49

Lacrosse -- 0.00 -- 1.45 -- 2.91

Skiing -- 0.00 -- 0.00 -- 0.00

Soccer -- 0.00 -- 0.00 -- 0.48

Swimming -- 0.00 -- 0.91 -- 0.00

Tennis -- 0.00 -- 0.00 -- 0.00

Track -- 0.43 -- 0.43 -- 0.64

Wrestling -- 0.00 -- 0.98 -- 0.00

Female

Sport -- Fatalities -- Nonfatal -- Serious

Basketball -- 0.00 -- 0.00 -- 0.00

Cross country -- 0.00 -- 0.00 -- 0.00

Field hockey -- 0.00 -- 0.00 -- 1.39

Gymnastics -- 0.00 -- 9.13 -- 0.00

Ice hockey -- 0.00 -- 0.00 -- 0.00

Lacrosse -- 0.00 -- 2.34 -- 0.00

Skiing -- 14.13 -- 0.00 -- 0.00

Soccer -- 0.00 -- 0.00 -- 0.00

Softball -- 0.00 -- 0.00 -- 0.00

Swimming -- 0.00 -- 0.00 -- 0.00

Tennis -- 0.00 -- 0.00 -- 0.00

Track -- 0.00 -- 0.00 -- 0.00

Wrestling -- 0.00 -- 0.00 -- 0.00

Indirect injuries

The number of indirect injuries per 100,000 participants for college sports from 1982-83 through 1995-96:

Male

Sport -- Fatalities -- Nonfatal -- Serious

Baseball -- 0.68 -- 0.00 -- 0.00

Basketball -- 5.98 -- 0.00 -- 0.00

Cross country -- 0.74 -- 0.00 -- 0.00

Football -- 2.19 -- 0.00 -- 0.00

Gymnastics -- 0.00 -- 0.00 -- 0.00

Ice hockey -- 1.83 -- 1.83 -- 0.00

Lacrosse -- 1.45 -- 0.00 -- 0.00

Skiing -- 9.49 -- 0.00 -- 0.00

Soccer -- 0.97 -- 0.00 -- 0.00

Swimming -- 2.74 -- 0.00 -- 0.00

Tennis -- 0.92 -- 0.00 -- 0.00

Track -- 0.21 -- 0.00 -- 0.00

Water polo -- 6.81 -- 0.00 -- 0.00

Wrestling -- 0.00 -- 0.00 -- 0.00

Female

Sport -- Fatalities -- Nonfatal -- Serious

Basketball -- 0.64 -- 0.00 -- 0.00

Cross country -- 0.00 -- 0.00 -- 0.00

Gymnastics -- 0.00 -- 0.00 -- 0.00

Ice hockey -- 0.00 -- 0.00 -- 0.00

Lacrosse -- 0.00 -- 0.00 -- 0.00

Skiing -- 0.00 -- 0.00 -- 0.00

Soccer -- 0.00 -- 0.00 -- 0.00

Softball -- 0.00 -- 0.00 -- 0.00

Swimming -- 0.00 -- 0.00 -- 0.00

Tennis -- 0.97 -- 0.00 -- 0.00

Track -- 0.00 -- 0.00 -- 0.00

Water polo -- 0.00 -- 0.00 -- 0.00

Wrestling -- 0.00 -- 0.00 -- 0.00


5 posted on 04/05/2005 8:29:58 PM PDT by Pharmboy ("Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God")
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She was the Energizer Bunny of our campus. She was turbo woman.

Not anymore . . .

7 posted on 04/05/2005 8:32:23 PM PDT by Petruchio (... .--. .- -.-- / .- -. -.. / -. ..- - . .-. / .. .-.. .-.. . --. .- .-.. ...)
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A PhD and she steps into a ring to let people cause TBI.
Smart.

Sad.


13 posted on 04/05/2005 8:48:56 PM PDT by RedBloodedAmerican
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Believe it or not - there's a bill under consideration here in liberal California to ban - yes, y'all heard right - to BAN female boxing. And surprisingly, its encountered no organized opposition. We have a dead real-life Million Dollar Baby on our hands. The fair sex shouldn't be allowed to take part in such a brutal spectacle.

(Denny Crane: "Sometimes you can only look for answers from God and failing that... and Fox News".)
17 posted on 04/05/2005 9:19:12 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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If you've seen the film clips of the fight, you'll have noticed that the punch that dropped/killed her was not a particularly tremendous punch. Both boxers were flurrying at each other, wide open defensively, and the bigger girl landed one of her flurry punches on the headgear over the left eye of Zerlentes.

Her head didn't react to the punch, her neck was not turned from the punch, her face never distorted. She was leaning forward when the punch "bounced" off her headgear and she just fell forward into the lower ropes.

Sometimes it's hard to gauge the force behind a punch, but this one was not a wind-up Sunday punch by any means, and I was very surprised that Zerlentes went down. She fell into the ropes and was bounced back into the ring, on her back, and she never moved a muscle. Obviously, given the outcome, she had suffered serious brain damage the moment she was hit.

And she was hit on the headgear, so the force of the punch would have been softened by the glove and the headgear. (I do not mean to say that that kind of a blow cannot do damage, it's just highly unlikely that it will.)

I think Zerlentes' death was a fluke of some kind, possibly from a previous head injury or perhaps due to an unknown susceptibility in her brain.

So, I think this tragedy wasn't because she was a female boxer, she was a boxer with a fragile brain. Deaths such as this happen in boxing now and then. I don't believe her being female had anything to do with it.


30 posted on 04/06/2005 3:32:10 AM PDT by Randy Papadoo (Not going so good? Just kick somebody's a$$. You'll feel a lot better!)
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