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Plenty of Earths await discovery
BBC ^ | 4/5/05 | Jonathan Amos

Posted on 04/05/2005 9:36:50 AM PDT by LibWhacker

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To: Drammach
Interesting and possibly true.. ( it may just be human ego, too. )

I don't discount the possibility that it's an urban legend, but given the fact that over just a few decades the amount of radio energy has increased so much I'd expect it to be noticed, IF it's reached any other world with the technology that could see it.

41 posted on 04/05/2005 11:41:29 AM PDT by Squawk 8888 (End dependence on foreign oil- put a Slowpoke in your basement)
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To: doc30; Squawk 8888; Drammach; agere_contra

Not quite. Anything below 1GHz gets attenuated pretty quickly. Our TV broadcasts would not even be noticed as far out as the nearest star. What is worse is that interstellar scintillation pretty much destroys any of the modulation characteristics leaving only the narrowband carrier. This is why SETI looks for narrowband carriers sans modulation. So "I Love Lucy" is going to the stars (except as microwave digital streams that are uplinked to the TV satellites only).


42 posted on 04/05/2005 11:42:16 AM PDT by RadioAstronomer
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To: fish hawk
String theory may someday explain alleged UFO's as well..

Dimensional travellers, rather than "life on other planets"..

The "sleeping prophet", Edgar Cayce claimed in one of his "sessions" that humanity would indeed, meet intelligent life some day..
But it would be 10's of thousands of years from now, and they would be so far beyond us that we would consider them as god-like, and we would be completely beyond their notice..
That's pretty humiliating, isn't it?
To finally find life in the universe and find out you are no more than ants beneath their feet?

Great tag-line, by the way..

43 posted on 04/05/2005 11:47:57 AM PDT by Drammach (Freedom; not just a job, it's an adventure..)
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To: Drammach
they would be so far beyond us that we would consider them as god-like

Or as Captain Picard observed, "Any tecnology sufficiently advanced beyond our own would be indistinguishable from magic."

Being a computer geek, I prefer the corrolary that any technology that is distinguishable from magic is not sufficiently advanced.

44 posted on 04/05/2005 12:06:11 PM PDT by Squawk 8888 (End dependence on foreign oil- put a Slowpoke in your basement)
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placemarker


45 posted on 04/05/2005 12:12:28 PM PDT by js1138 (There are 10 kinds of people: those who read binary, and those who don't.)
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To: Koblenz

Think!

If you were from a technologically advanced civilzation many, many light years distant from here, would you waste you time on this violent collection of scientific wannabes, when in all probablilty there's so much more to be had out there?

How could you trust a "civilization" that is brutal to it's own?

How could you approach a people who have seen fit to irridate their own planet - not just once, but many times?

How comfortable could you feel with an ignorant mass of collected races that seemingly have been thrown together haphazardly, and can't find it in themselves to get along?

How confident would you be with a world that has just scratched the surface of scientific possibilities and whose first option to your visit is more likely than not going to be militaristic?

With each passing year I become more and more convinced we live in a really bad galactic neighborhood, and until such time as we get our sh*t together, we won't be graced with a visit from these guys any time soon.

And in passing, I don't think warp technology is the answer to interstellar apace travel. At some point it might serve as a semi-useful bridge technology, but I really think they'd use something else more efficient.

Just my thoughts...

CA....


46 posted on 04/05/2005 12:13:18 PM PDT by Chances Are (Whew! It seems I've once again found that silly grin!)
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To: RadioAstronomer

"The universe is one big place"

I don't think many people have a good grasp of what a light year is.

How much would a spaceship cost (even a speed of light job) and a trip? Would an alien society be willing to pay for that? For what, to experiment on humans? GMAB.

I could see satellite travelers, broadcasting, but it would take many, many years for one to get anywhere distant from its source.


47 posted on 04/05/2005 12:16:01 PM PDT by furball4paws (Ho, Ho, Beri, Beri and Balls!)
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To: furball4paws

Absolutely! :-)


48 posted on 04/05/2005 12:19:12 PM PDT by RadioAstronomer
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To: Chances Are
Alien Anthropologists
49 posted on 04/05/2005 12:24:24 PM PDT by Anvilhead
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To: Chances Are

or maybe Alien Boy Scouts, err Person Scouts.


50 posted on 04/05/2005 12:25:07 PM PDT by Anvilhead
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To: Squawk 8888
Or as Captain Picard observed, "Any tecnology sufficiently advanced beyond our own would be indistinguishable from magic.

If Pickard said it, he got it from Arthur Clarke.

51 posted on 04/05/2005 12:27:06 PM PDT by PatrickHenry (<-- Click on my name. The List-O-Links for evolution threads is at my freeper homepage.)
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To: LibWhacker
Billions & billions & billions of Earths just waiting to be discovered...yeah, right.


52 posted on 04/05/2005 12:27:47 PM PDT by add925 (The Left = Xenophobes in Denial)
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To: Squawk 8888
If Captain Picard said that on Star Trek then it was a nod to Arthur C. Clarke.

"Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." - Arthur C. Clarke, Profiles of The Future, 1961.

53 posted on 04/05/2005 12:28:52 PM PDT by AntiGuv (™)
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To: Anvilhead
Creature Scouts..
54 posted on 04/05/2005 12:29:41 PM PDT by AntiGuv (™)
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To: TBP
"Unless we can really master warp speed travel."

Yeah, the uncontrollable warp speed sucks. (Sorry, couldn't resist.)
55 posted on 04/05/2005 12:31:49 PM PDT by Lee'sGhost (Crom!)
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To: Chances Are

Or maybe the opposite is true. We are the peaceful, ecologically sensitive ones that ate technologically superior by comparison. One civillization must be the most advanced. It could be us.


56 posted on 04/05/2005 12:32:02 PM PDT by doc30 (Democrats are to morals what and Etch-A-Sketch is to Art.)
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To: Koblenz
If there are a bunch of other earths out there, and even if only a few of them are populated, how come none of them has advanced enough to contact us?

Oh, they're plenty advanced. They just can't afford the phone bill.

57 posted on 04/05/2005 12:33:08 PM PDT by Oberon (What does it take to make government shrink?)
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To: LibWhacker
If there are other earths, then they have conservatives on them. If they have conservatives on them then they have ceased to exist because the conservtives have destroyed them.

Therefore, no other earths can exist.

58 posted on 04/05/2005 12:34:32 PM PDT by Raycpa
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To: TBP

Plenty of "Earths", little intelligent life.


59 posted on 04/05/2005 12:43:30 PM PDT by boris (The deadliest weapon of mass destruction in history is a leftist with a word processor.)
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To: LibWhacker

I watch Stargate, I knew that!


60 posted on 04/05/2005 12:45:32 PM PDT by CaptRon (Pedecaris alive or Raisuli dead)
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