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Minutemen find few migrants (Police in Mexico discouraging illegal crossings)
Arizona Daily Star ^

Posted on 04/05/2005 8:34:29 AM PDT by Kokojmudd

By Michael Marizco ARIZONA DAILY STAR

NACO, SONORA – A Mexican military Humvee moves across the cow pasture; soldiers nod at federal agents in bright orange shirts roving by on ATVs. An hour later, a Sonora State Preventive Police truck moves through a sandy wash, the officers looking for migrants waiting to sneak across the border.

Across the barbed-wire border in Arizona early Monday, excitement grips Minuteman Project volunteers when they observe a group of six people moving north.

Dan Russell, 62, watches the group walking toward him. "They're getting closer," he says. "They could just be reporters." They are.

In the first few days of the Minuteman Project, volunteers have been slowing illegal immigration into the Naco area.They've accomplished that with the help of an unlikely ally: Mexico.

Eager to avoid confrontations between volunteers and its people, Mexico is sweeping the area south of the Minuteman Project clear of migrants.

Gov. Eduardo Bours Castelo has placed 44 members of the new state police force across the border at La Morita, a cattle ranch that leads directly to the border south of Bisbee, said Diego Padilla the governor's Arizona representative.

The state police are working with Grupo Beta, Mexico's migrant protection force, which is plucking migrants out of the desert and depositing them in nearby Agua Prieta, where they are encouraged to wait before trying to cross.

"We are very crude with them; we tell them they may be shot, that there's rancheros out to stop them and hurt them," said Enrique Enriques Palafox, a Grupo Beta commander in Agua Prieta. The point is to terrify the migrants from the area so they won't cross illegally and encounter Minuteman volunteers, he said.

Sunday, the coordinated efforts of the military, Grupo Beta, and the new police force pulled 22 groups of migrants out of the ranch, Palafox said. By Monday, only a handful of people had to be told to go somewhere else.

Even as the Minuteman Project brought national attention to Cochise County's border woes, volunteers had few encounters with illegal entrants. But their presence has brought Mexican law enforcement to this part of the border, and that has had the effect of slowing illegal immigration.

Organizer James Gilchrist said Sunday that volunteers had reported 118 illegal entrants to the U.S. Border Patrol. There is no way to confirm that, because the agency's Tucson Sector says it doesn't keep track of Minuteman callers separately from normal calls from citizens about illegal border crossers.

Since Friday, when the protest started, there have been 78 citizen call-ins leading to the apprehension of 162 people, said Border Patrol spokesman Andy Adame.

What Minuteman volunteers have succeeded in doing is setting off false alarms by tripping ground sensors on the border, he said.

"We're having to work around them instead of concentrating on the actual border where we need to work," Adame said.

The number of illegal entrant apprehensions at the Naco station has dropped.

U.S. and Mexican officials say it's because of Mexico's efforts.

Minuteman organizers say otherwise. "We're having an impact," Gilchrist said Sunday.

● Contact reporter Michael Marizco at 573-4213 or at mmarizco@azstarnet.com.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Mexico; News/Current Events; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: aliens; minutemanproject
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To: Spiff

you nailed it Spiff.


81 posted on 04/05/2005 9:23:33 AM PDT by sdpatriot (remember waco and ruby ridge)
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To: Dead Corpse

IMO CBG is trying to bait readers of this post into posting an inappropriate or vulgar reply......the type of reply which could get one banned from FR and paint anti-illegal immigration types as "wackos." Fortunately, it looks like nobody took the bait.

I guess I am somewhat cynical today but a red flag goes up when I see somebody brandishing military credentials to bolster their demagoguery.

Incidentally, I agree with CBG that the illegal immigration problem is a symptom of a greater problem, namely the welfare state.


82 posted on 04/05/2005 9:25:35 AM PDT by Kokojmudd (Today's Liberal is Tomorrow's Prospective Flying Saucer Abductee)
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To: Kokojmudd
Eager to avoid confrontations between volunteers and its people, Mexico is sweeping the area south of the Minuteman Project clear of migrants.

As opposed to the other 11 months of the year, when they turn their heads the other way.

83 posted on 04/05/2005 9:25:39 AM PDT by kstewskis ("Tolerance is what happens when one loses their principles"....Fr. A Saenz.)
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To: BJungNan
"Minutemen Disrupting Normal Operations"....As we all know, normal operations was allowing millions of illegal migrants from crossing the border. If the minuteman project is upsetting normal operations, then they should keep at!

Bump!

84 posted on 04/05/2005 9:27:41 AM PDT by Paul Ross (We have sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men)
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To: Flyer

He probably employs illegals....those are the staunchest defenders of our uninvited guests.


85 posted on 04/05/2005 9:29:11 AM PDT by BurbankKarl (The Mainstream Media is neither.)
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To: Flyer

He probably employs illegals....those are the staunchest defenders of our uninvited guests.


86 posted on 04/05/2005 9:29:11 AM PDT by BurbankKarl (The Mainstream Media is neither.)
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To: cripplecreek

"Apparently the sensors aren't tripped by the thousands of illegals who pass every single day."

No, I guess they are designed to only detect American citizens.


87 posted on 04/05/2005 9:29:17 AM PDT by monday
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To: Kokojmudd

Kinda demonstrates that the Mexican government COULD halt illegal migration if it really wanted to.


88 posted on 04/05/2005 9:29:42 AM PDT by DoctorMichael (The Fourth Estate is a Fifth Column!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: DoctorMichael
Either government could if they were serious about it. That is kind of the point. They are complicit in this illegal activity.
89 posted on 04/05/2005 9:32:58 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (Sooner or later, you have to stand your ground. Whether anyone else does or not. - Michael Badnarik)
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To: dirtboy
IMO he's flame baiting - trying to get the thread axed or posters banned. Best to call him on his idiocy without over-flaming, lest you grant him what he really wants.

Thank you, and I know it. I've seen the tactic before and I'm often the first to warn others that the FROBLs are engaging in it again.

My point being firmly made, I'm done talking to the idiot and I hope that others now recognize him for the flame-baiting troll that he is. Cultural Jihad was banned for doing this same stuff the other day, hopefully Clintonbegone will meet with the same zot fate.

90 posted on 04/05/2005 9:34:38 AM PDT by Spiff (Don't believe everything you think.)
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To: Kerretarded
Why are ILLEGALS getting US social security in the first place? I would venture to say that they are not paying taxes, hence not paying into SS to begin with.

Getting back at least what they pay, just like anyone else that has SS taxes withheld. What is the problem with that?

91 posted on 04/05/2005 9:35:14 AM PDT by ClintonBeGone (In politics, sometimes it's OK for even a Wolverine to root for a Buckeye win.)
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To: borntobeagle
But as soon as the Minutemen leave, the illegals will come back.

Carolyn

92 posted on 04/05/2005 9:35:50 AM PDT by CDHart (The world has become a lunatic asylum and the lunatics are in charge.)
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To: Flyer
Can you provide some source info to backup your claim?

Perhaps you can assist me in showing how to prove a negative?

93 posted on 04/05/2005 9:36:46 AM PDT by ClintonBeGone (In politics, sometimes it's OK for even a Wolverine to root for a Buckeye win.)
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To: ClintonBeGone
What is the problem with that?

That's letting criminals reap the rewards of their crimes.

94 posted on 04/05/2005 9:38:34 AM PDT by Flyer ( http://dahtcom.com)
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To: ClintonBeGone
Perhaps you can assist me in showing how to prove a negative?

It's not proving a negative to post your own statistics showing the BP is full of it.

But it is quite telling that you are attempting that ploy when your positions are challenged.

95 posted on 04/05/2005 9:39:10 AM PDT by dirtboy (Drooling moron since 1998...)
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To: CDHart
But as soon as the Minutemen leave, the illegals will come back.

True. We know this and the Minutemen know this. However, their point will have been made as it has been made already. The border can be shut down, the Mexican government can do something about, and the people are fed up with the problem and don't want to take it anymore. This event and its implications will be hard to ignore - its ripple effects will be far reaching. There's no harbor down here and no tea, but you're seeing the equivalent of the Boston Tea Party happening right now.

96 posted on 04/05/2005 9:39:15 AM PDT by Spiff (Don't believe everything you think.)
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To: ClintonBeGone

You don't have to prove a negative. Just show the stats that indicate very few illegal border crossings.


97 posted on 04/05/2005 9:39:39 AM PDT by Flyer ( http://dahtcom.com)
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To: Kokojmudd
Eager to avoid confrontations between volunteers and its people, Mexico is sweeping the area south of the Minuteman Project clear of migrants.

More egg on the face of liberal weenies everywhere.

No vigilanteeism, just lawful Americans aiding law enforcement to do their job.

And finally, the Mexicans seem to have gotten the message that people on this side of the border are fed up and ready to do something about it. So finally, they take action.

I wonder how much longer it will be before Mexico starts behaving like a responsible nation-state and improves conditions for it's people, rather than using the US as a dumping ground for their unemployables.

98 posted on 04/05/2005 9:40:39 AM PDT by Kenton ("Life is tough, and it's really tough when you're stupid" - Damon Runyon)
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To: cripplecreek

Yeah...now that's good...

3 million illegals cross the border every year and a few hundred Minutemen are setting off alarms in a couple of days


99 posted on 04/05/2005 9:40:49 AM PDT by Irontank (Every decent man is ashamed of the government he lives under)
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To: ClintonBeGone

I'm from Michigan. If I want to see illegals I drive past apple orchards, cherry orchards, and Dearborn. The atms here are in English and Spanish. Think that's a coincidence?

Now ask me about the year I lived in northern Indiana and there were no catholic masses in English, but plenty in Spanish, and the paper had a weekly segment on "How to get US citizenship".

This is a nationwide issue, worse in some places, but it is everywhere.


100 posted on 04/05/2005 9:40:51 AM PDT by leoncaruthers
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