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To: Rebel_Ace
Game Over, thanks for playing! See, when folks observe puzzling physical facts, the process of science tries to explain and account for them.

DUNG! DUNG! DUNG! DUNG!

You clearly don't understand the point being made, which is that there is no more reason for ID to account for Mass Extinctions (currently thought to result from things like Giant Meteor Impacts) than for the theory of evolution to do so. Giant Meteors are explicitly outside the context of both concepts: organisms will be killed by them regardless of whether they were evolved, designed, or some combination of the two.

Get it?

136 posted on 04/05/2005 12:09:51 PM PDT by r9etb
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To: r9etb
"...You clearly don't understand the point being made, which is that there is no more reason for ID to account for Mass Extinctions (currently thought to result from things like Giant Meteor Impacts) than for the theory of evolution to do so. Giant Meteors are explicitly outside the context of both concepts: organisms will be killed by them regardless of whether they were evolved, designed, or some combination of the two.

Get it?"


Oh, I certainly "get it". Here's the deal:

After some major environmental catastrophe, such as a meteor impact, or horrendous volcanic erruption where the previously stable bio-habitat is violently re-arranged...

evolutionary theory predicts that those organisms not suited to the new environmental conditions will perish. Organisms that can adapt to the new environment will continue to reproduce. After many, many generations, new species will emerge that are even better suited to the new environmental conditions, through the process of random mutation and natural selection.

intelligent design theory predicts that those organisms not suited to the new environmental conditions will perish. Organisms that can adapt to the new environment will continue to reproduce, but essentially stay the same. Any new species that emerge (ie, that are observed AFTER the disruptive event) which are even better suited to the new environmental conditions would have to be designed by some intelligent agent, since "macro evolution" is not on the table.

As learned from your prior posts, any inconvenient observation is not required to be accounted for with the ID theory.

You see, what the original poster was getting to by asking about MASS EXTINCTIONS is the necessary RISE OF OTHER SPECIES after the extinction event. A complete phrasing of the question, as it pertains to ID would be the following:

"After mass extinction events (observable from the fossil record) there gives rise to new, previously non-existent species (also observable from the fossil record). How does ID account for the rise of these new species? Does an intelligent agent re-visit the Earth and re-arrange DNA? If not, then how does one distinguish between naturally selected speciation and those directed by ID? Can you give physical evidence for visits by an intelligent agent for the various mass extinction events, (spaced at roughly 50 to 100 million years apart)?"

That is a more complete question, with the tricky bits that touch on ID spelled out.
143 posted on 04/05/2005 12:30:54 PM PDT by Rebel_Ace (Tags?!? Tags?!? We don' neeeed no stinkin' Tags!)
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To: r9etb

You seem to be avoiding the saber-toothed tigers and the woolly mammoths. They did NOT go extinct as a result of a meteor impact. So, how do you explain individual species extinctions? If they were properly designed...


144 posted on 04/05/2005 12:31:32 PM PDT by thomaswest (We are all for God. Who claims to know is questionable.)
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