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Sen. Cornyn (R-TX) Links Violence Against Judges To 'Political' Decisions
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| 4/5/05
| Charles Babington
Posted on 04/04/2005 7:32:23 PM PDT by Crackingham
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To: Crackingham
Interesting angle. Blame the violence on the judges. It worked when Clinton blammed terrorism on Rush but he had the assistance of the MSM. Without that, this probably has no traction.
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posted on
04/04/2005 7:35:43 PM PDT
by
Raycpa
To: Crackingham
Over at DU they are taking that quote and saying "Did you hear that? Is he saying what I think he's saying? He's advocating violence against judges!!!!!"
Dems are crazy. I mean, really crazy.
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posted on
04/04/2005 7:36:06 PM PDT
by
ClearCase_guy
(The fourth estate is a fifth column.)
To: ClearCase_guy
How can you stand lurking at DU? I used to but couldn't handle the sesveral showers I felt I needed after reading such vulgar posts. They can't type 3 words without a vulgar word...
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posted on
04/04/2005 7:38:07 PM PDT
by
queenkathy
(Can't think of anything cute for my tagline)
To: Raycpa
I know of a Christian author who blamed 9/11 on the United States' "economic colonialism." I don't know why it's always okay for the left to blame the evil actions of others on the US and/or conservatives, but it never works in reverse. Not that I believe we should try to blame others for our personal decisions; I just wonder why the blame thing always seems to be a one-way street.
To: Crackingham
"Cornyn, who spoke in a nearly empty chamber...."
Speaks volumes.
To: Fantasywriter
I should have clarified that it is a leftist Christian author, though he himself denies that. He portrays himself as mainstream conservative.
To: Tench_Coxe
those speeches are always given to an empty chamber. They never mention that hitlary speakes to an empty chamber.
To: Crackingham
There is definitely something to this. I will forever believe that had Janet Reno and others been held accountable for Waco (i.e., fired at a minimum), Oklahoma City would not have happened.
I also believe that abortion doctors would not be murdered and threatened, if the political process had been allowed to operate (in that case, the states would have instituted their own laws on abortion).
If you want political violence, the best way to achieve it is through tyranny. And our elitist judges are are pouring fuel on the fires, with their decisions.
It's great to see someone with Senator Cornyn's stature teach the judges the facts of life.
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posted on
04/04/2005 7:42:18 PM PDT
by
BobL
To: Crackingham
Very interesting.
Is he just commenting on the political climate, or giving a wink and a nod to certain 'conservatives'?
The mind reels.
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posted on
04/04/2005 7:42:42 PM PDT
by
Constitution Day
(Standing athwart FR, yelling 'Stop!')
To: Crackingham
I'm all for reforming the courts, but this speech seems very counterproductive to me. You don't blame the dead, and I also don't think most of these "courthouse shootings" are related to constitutional law issues. They may be driven by anger, but it's anger over a divorce settlement, etc.
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posted on
04/04/2005 7:43:27 PM PDT
by
nj26
To: Crackingham
What would you think would be the reaction if a Dem said this?
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posted on
04/04/2005 7:43:32 PM PDT
by
celmak
To: queenkathy; ClearCase_guy
Both the Senator and the DU guys are getting it all messed up.
It's not that the decisions are upsetting whack jobs who go out and shoot judges; rather, it's that when the whack jobs shoot the judges (or their relatives), no one else, not even the MSM, care anymore.
I've been watching the press for signs of sympathy toward the judge in the Atlanta case, and there wasn't any, or it was buried in the outpouring of sympathy toward the lady who was taken hostage.
It's like everybody knew the judge, or his buddies on the bench, had issued orders that resulted in a dangerous prisoner getting loose and killing folks, and that the hostage would not have been taken hostage but for those stupid orders!
The Chicago judge found her husband and mother shot dead, but most of the public sympathy was about the husband and mother ~ not the judge. No one seemed to care what she might have felt.
When some members of the judiciary can be relied upon to rule in either incomprehensible or unjust ways, the public loses confidence in all of the members, and may even begin to think of judges as something other than human.
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posted on
04/04/2005 7:44:49 PM PDT
by
muawiyah
To: Crackingham
Cornyn, who spoke in a nearly empty chamber9 times out of 10, the only ones in the chamber are the Presiding member, the clerk, the stenographer, and the speaker who has the floor.
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posted on
04/04/2005 7:45:06 PM PDT
by
BigSkyFreeper
("Stupidity is also a gift of God, but one mustn't misuse it" - Pope John Paul II)
To: celmak
What would you think would be the reaction if a Dem said this?Something along the lines of, "Those Republicans have nothing better to do".
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posted on
04/04/2005 7:46:33 PM PDT
by
BigSkyFreeper
("Stupidity is also a gift of God, but one mustn't misuse it" - Pope John Paul II)
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To: longtermmemmory
The unfortunate part of this is that I believe there is a kernel of truth in what Cornyn is saying. And it seems to me, at least, that some of the judicial decisions lately seem to be a contest to see who can invoke the most outrage, decision being Constitutional or not.
The judiciary is not the only part involved. The legislative branch has the power to reign in the judiciary. I know the arguments of 'good conduct', but take for instance the invocation of 'International Norms' by certain Supreme Court Justices. And the legislature merely sits back and says, " Oh, we can't do anything. Separation of Powers and all. So we'll just have to abide by whatever whim is indulged in by the courts. ". Hogwash.
People aren't stupid. The last election was as much about the abdication of legislative authority to the judicial branch as it was about the 'War on Terror'.
Put bluntly, nature abhors a vacuum. Just look at the Minuteman Project.
To: Fantasywriter
I should have clarified that it is a leftist Christian author, though he himself denies that. He portrays himself as mainstream conservative. I'll bet. I know people who talk like that: "We must overthrow the bourgeoisie! Nationalize the core industries! All power to the proletariat! And, mind you, I say this as a mainsteam conservative."
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posted on
04/04/2005 7:50:37 PM PDT
by
ClearCase_guy
(The fourth estate is a fifth column.)
To: BigSkyFreeper
Nothing better to do than what?
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posted on
04/04/2005 7:50:51 PM PDT
by
celmak
To: muawiyah
When some members of the judiciary can be relied upon to rule in either incomprehensible or unjust ways, the public loses confidence in all of the members, and may even begin to think of judges as something other than human.I believe alot of people had sympathy for David Gibbs when he couldn't competantly plead the Schindler's case. They kept blaming the "evil judiciary", or "gutless Congressmen", or the "heartless President".
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posted on
04/04/2005 7:52:39 PM PDT
by
BigSkyFreeper
("Stupidity is also a gift of God, but one mustn't misuse it" - Pope John Paul II)
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