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1 posted on 04/04/2005 10:46:19 AM PDT by ex-Texan
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If my tax rate weren't exceeding 50% I could become debt free before I'm 50! Everyone wants to blame everything but the source of the problem. Continually growing government taxation, taking bigger chunks of income (corporate and private) is driving our economic spending power into the ground.

Add to that the "keep up with the Jones'" attitude of many, and you have a recipe for disaster.


52 posted on 04/04/2005 11:25:29 AM PDT by CSM
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It doesn't matter if you're a "white collar" or "blue collar" employee. If you're an American, you're too highly paid. There are billions of people who want your job, and your government is doing all they can to see that you lose it to them.

Don't tell anyone. This will be our little secret.

59 posted on 04/04/2005 11:35:11 AM PDT by Penner
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Voluntary indenture it may be, but slavery it's not. Problem is, we've been taught by the liberal leftists societal engineers to ignore taking person responsibility for our behaviors.


65 posted on 04/04/2005 11:48:56 AM PDT by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
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Roger Jolly??? ROTFLMAO!!!


76 posted on 04/04/2005 12:00:43 PM PDT by Chi-townChief
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Quite a melancholy view. Noticeably short on facts and figures, though. Here's a few items I scratched from the latest Business Week article on the economy:

From the Mortgage Bankers Association: past due mortgages are at a ten year low.

From the Federal Reserve, the financial obligations ratio, ie payments for mortgages and other installment debt as a percentage of aftertax income, has fallen from last quarter and also from the same date two years ago. The ratio of income required for non-mortgage debt has dropped from 6.62% to 5.83%, a nine-year low.

Delinquency rates for auto loans, leases, and personal loans have declined sharply in the last three years, according to the authors, and delinquencies on revolving credit, including bank cards, has edged downward over the past year.

Business expansion has resulted in a 6% growth in wages and salaries over the last year, the fastest pace in four years.

All is not lost.


77 posted on 04/04/2005 12:02:53 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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The average American in the year 2005 lives a fragile existence, in a struggle for survival that can be ended by missing a few paychecks.

If I played the violin maybe I could make a few bucks by getting a gig playing at one of these "woe is me" pity parties.

89 posted on 04/04/2005 12:15:23 PM PDT by DumpsterDiver
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Bump for later reading as this subject fascinates me.

One can only be free when one is free of debt. Otherwise, you are a slave.

When I say free of debt, I'm generally not talking about a mortgage on one's home unless you own more on the home than what it is worth.

But for people who are mortgaged to the hilt, have car payments AND credit card payments, as well as "equity loans" and such, well, you really need to ask yourself just who you are working for.

106 posted on 04/04/2005 12:34:10 PM PDT by SamAdams76 (Don't You Think This Outlaw Bit's Done Got Out Of Hand?)
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Regardless of how wealthy you think you are, you actually have no real money at all. The "federal reserve notes" that are in your wallet, and your bank account, aren't really money, but are actually only paper on a debt that can never be paid, not even by combining all the assets and labor of every American alive today.

And for everyone who wants to get rid of those evil "federal reserve notes", I will take them off your hands FREE of charge! I know it is aweful generous of me.

112 posted on 04/04/2005 12:39:49 PM PDT by Always Right
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With the exception of the odd case where some health emergency caused someone to be financially ruined, most people with large amounts of debt (especially of the higher interest variety) have only themselves to blame. They fail to comprehend basic financial concepts, and cannot grasp how cash flow works. Rich Dad, Poor Dad 101 ....


139 posted on 04/04/2005 2:19:45 PM PDT by GOP_1900AD (Stomping on "PC," destroying the Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Take Back The GOP!)
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BTTT


145 posted on 04/04/2005 2:37:20 PM PDT by rottweiller_inc
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I owe no one anything. I paid off my mortgage, paid cash for my cars and pay off the credit card balance every time I use it. It is really liberating to live within one's means. About twice a week I get a call from a debt consolidation company. Occassionally I've played along until they ask me what my current balance is. When I tell them ZERO they sound like eunuchs at an orgy. They have no idea how to deal with an American who has no debt. One of them asked me how I do it. I told her I never spend more than I earn.


151 posted on 04/04/2005 2:58:19 PM PDT by muir_redwoods (Free Sirhan Sirhan, after all, the bastard who killed Mary Jo Kopeckne is walking around free)
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Simply put, we're being robbed of all we've worked for, because our government wants us to be poor, hungry, and docile, dependant upon them for our existence, and in fear of them for our lives.

Poor and hungary has never a docile made. As Adam Smith wrote: Power corrupts, absolutel poverty corrupts absolutely.

Fat and lazy with a disposable income don't start revolutions, poor and hungry do.

169 posted on 04/04/2005 9:27:15 PM PDT by jb6 (Truth == Christ)
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You no longer work to achieve a better life for yourselves and your children. You work to keep a roof over your head, and you pray that you don't lose it.

This is a joke. I hope no one is buying into this pap. We have it better now than anyone has ever had it.

174 posted on 04/05/2005 4:54:03 AM PDT by biblewonk (WELL I SPEAK LOUD, AND I CARRY A BIGGER STICK, AND I USE IT TOO!)
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Something here to be learned about the "responsibility of freedom." We are made slaves, literally and figuratively, by way of our own permission.


176 posted on 04/05/2005 5:57:00 AM PDT by IamConservative (To worry is to misuse your imagination.)
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Didn't check the link. The excerpt has some truth in it, even if it is a little shrill...


178 posted on 04/05/2005 6:08:13 AM PDT by OKSooner
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How many times does it have to be said that V. Fox let the cat out of the bag when he revealed the globalist plan for the USofA. Let me quote him, "Mexico, Canada, and the USofA WILL fall under one trade umbrella with AMERICAN WAGES DROPPING TO MEET MEXICO'S RISING WAGES.

The man was not talking out of the top of his sombrero, he meant it. It has been discussed, agreed upon, and is in action as we type. This is why Bush does nothing about border security, this is why Bush calls patriotic Americans going to the border to document this invasion and alert the border patrol, "vigilantes".

Bush wants more illegal immigration not less, and we pick up the tab in taxes, services, education, welfare, medical, and loss of wage levels, while the price at the grocery stores just keep on rising.
180 posted on 04/05/2005 6:53:45 AM PDT by MissAmericanPie
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Regardless of how wealthy you think you are, you actually have no real money at all. The "federal reserve notes" that are in your wallet, and your bank account, aren't really money, but are actually only paper on a debt that can never be paid

A load of crap. Sounds like the 'fiat money' spiel of the goldbugs.

212 posted on 04/06/2005 10:26:24 AM PDT by Sloth (I don't post a lot of the threads you read; I make a lot of the threads you read better.)
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