Posted on 04/04/2005 8:06:29 AM PDT by tessalu
DU'ers are zotted so fast their heads swim. Why? Because they don't adhere to conservative values. I've never before heard murder described as a pro-conservative value. And Terri Schindler was murdered.
Thanks for the ping Wolfie.
My reaction to this is the same as it's been - the extremes of both sides are so left, and so right, they are meeting one another in the back of the circle in anarchy...
Terri most certainly was murdered. Have you heard anything about the memorial service for her today? Also, wasn't the Sciavo monster supposed to notify the Schindler's of HIS plans. I heard that the monster wouldn't even allow Terri's family to have a lock of Terri's hair before he cremated the body. Praying the justice!!!!!!
I'm curious...were you out protesting the murder of the twin sister of Manar Maged, who could blink and smile? Or would that have interrupted the All-"Terri",All-the-Time marathon?
My point is that you can call hypocrisy, yet I wonder why there was no outcry in that case.
BINGO! We have a winner!
Good post.
Note to file:
Accusing a man of attempting to murder the woman he loves may result in some bad feelings.
Quite amazing that respecting laws and our Constitution is now being considered "no conservative" now. *sigh* Sorry, but I'm not going to let the term "conservative" be hihacked by those advocating murder of judges, stomping on individualism, ignoring the law, disrespecting marriage, and attacking our president for following the Constitution. Those are PSEUDOCONSERVATIVES!
Ignore 'em.
I can understand that... but then again, it's hard to "respect" a power of subpoena when it's being used in a disrespectful way.
Thanks. That is the smartest thing to do.
I copied this excerpt from your post:
"Unknown Number Face Life-Support Decision
Monday, April 04, 2005
By Robin Wallace
Fox News
(excerpt)
Even in Texas, where the furor and outrage over Sun Hudson's death brought national scrutiny to the state's futile care law, official records are not kept.
Though the law requires hospitals to convene ethics panels to determine patient treatment, it does not contain a reporting requirement. While individual hospitals would have records of the meetings convened by the ethics panels that determine patients' treatment, "there is no repository" for this information, Sjobert said.
Since Texas enacted the futile care law in 1999, Engler said she knew of only four cases, including Hudson's, where decisions to end life support resulted in disputes or litigation."
Coincidentally, my husband was just telling about the Hudson case today. It was a baby that was not even six months old. The doctors said that the baby's lungs had no chance of recovering (doctors HAVE been wrong before), and the mother begged that the baby be kept on a respirator or ventilator? longer, to see if the baby's lungs would develop.
Many doctors are taking the easy way out, and giving up too easily.
If the woman were very wealthy, she could have purchased everything that her baby needed herself.
The misconceptions I spoke of were your own words -- and how I understood them. Meaning no disrespect, but it seems to me you have not followed the discussion very closely.
That is your opinion, and I respect it. My opinion is somewhat different. I don't see it as murder, but as euthanasia. Now I fully realize that many people consider euthanasia to be murder. In fact, it is against the law in most states, even though it occurs daily whenever life-sustaining measures are removed.
Please don't jump to the incorrect conclusion that I am advocating euthanasia. I am not. I'm merely pointing out a difference in our perspectives.
I would like to see us, as a society, face euthanasia squarely and honestly. What happened with Terri Schiavo was a legal fiction that she died on her own when, in fact, it was euthanasia by omission rather than comission (as when a doctor euthanizes a pet by administering a lethal dose of medication).
These are the kinds of issues I would like to see debated here on FR, but the ugly vitriol makes it impossible.
I think you and I have been talking past one another on this thread. As a result, it appears we have both woefully misunderstood each other.
When does the DA indict?
You've lost me. What words, what misconceptions?
I have followed the Terri Schiavo case very closely for longer than most. I am well acquainted with the courts holdings, the medical issues, the heated arguments from both sides and my own opinions.
Did you see my post where I said I think we've been talking past each other? If that doesn't clear the air a bit, nothing will.
No, first in, first out. But I've seen it now. I don't think I've been unclear but if I have I apologise. I will answer any question you pose, thats my motto at FR.
As if that's a factor.
"Sad commentary of our times. Calloused, indifference, will eventually lead America into the godless nation she is fast becoming!!!!!"
True,...but honestly the "culture of death" and the god of convenience have been chalking them up in the win column for 30-plus years. There have been even bigger strides by the secular humanists in the last 5 to 10; I'm from Frederick, MD and you may have heard about the continuous onslaught of a 10 Commandments display, here, over the last few years. The seculars have struck out a couple times - but they just won't go away.
I don't mean to be overly dramatic, but I think peolple that believe in Terri's cause can consider this a "call to arms" or a wake-up call. You may have heard this before - that old "Take Back America" howl - in the wake of Clinton, the 9th Circuit Court's "under God" ruling and the Senatorial blockade, but I think this it. It's time to make a stand. That sounds SO theatrical, but really it's not all that complicated,...it's a little like evangelization, if you know what I mean.
And it's a call that can be heeded in any number of positive ways, rather than simply letting "the horde" steamroll us; as you note we should be poking the administration and the veep for such stupid coments, we should at least get after our reps to enforce their pointless subpeona and we can continue to make noise with regard to judicial reform and obstructionism. I'm not real big into messing with the Constitution, but there are a lot of other - much smarter - people than I looking into this. Additionally, we need to gently inform and persuade the folks that take in the news through CNN, M-TV or the LA Times. It's sad, but many Americans, especially young ones, simply glaze over when you mention the Constitution, or other multi-sylabic problems related to the Repubic, but that is the reality that.
We can all do a little massaging at the grass-roots, instilling some of that "hearts and minds" formula. Finally,...the last resort of scoundrels and saints, alike,... prayer is certainly a tonic that would do our nation some good. Obviously, we didn't get to a place where so many thought it was okay to "dehydrate a woman to death" overnight. Prayer and a little patience and let's bring this ship about.
Whew, speaking of patience, thanks for yours. Peace.
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