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Support grows for beefing up U.S. forces - Some see situations where volunteers may not be enough
San Francisco Chronicle ^ | 4/4/5 | Edward Epstein

Posted on 04/04/2005 7:37:55 AM PDT by SmithL

Washington -- The war-strained all-volunteer U.S. military has a growing manpower problem and a cross-section of Washington policymakers has proposed a solution -- increase the size of the regular military by 30,000, 40,000 or even 100, 000 or more.

While just about all the proponents maintain they want to achieve the increase by offering recruits bigger financial incentives or through appeals to patriotism, lurking in the background is a possibility that for now remains anathema to all but a few. The military draft, which coughed up its last conscript in 1973, could make a comeback if recruiting doesn't pick up and if America's commitments in Iraq and Afghanistan turn into long-term occupations or if the Bush administration's tough-minded foreign policy means military action in places like Iran or North Korea.

It's important to note that the Bush administration adamantly scorns the idea of a resumed draft. It won't even agree to a permanent increase in the Army's size, which Congress temporarily boosted by 30,000 last year, saying instead that Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld's plan to transform the military into a high-tech, mobile force will meet the nation's needs.

But the administration does admit it has a problem, particularly in filling the ranks in the 500,000-person regular Army and the 675,000-person Army National Guard and Army Reserve, which have been called upon to carry a large part of the burden of deploying to Iraq and Afghanistan. In a March 23 press conference, Army Secretary Francis Harvey said that in the first two months of 2005, the active Army was meeting 94 percent of its recruiting goal, the Reserve 90 percent and the Guard 75 percent.

"Obviously, I'm concerned about the National Guard. I am cautiously optimistic about the Reserve and the active component,''

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Rep. Ellen Tauscher says Bush administration policies could very well break our military.
1 posted on 04/04/2005 7:37:56 AM PDT by SmithL
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To: SmithL
If I recall correctly we had a military almost double the size of the current one in the 1980's. Why don't we just do what we did then?
2 posted on 04/04/2005 7:39:54 AM PDT by CzarNicky (The problem with bad ideas is that they seemed like good ideas at the time.)
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To: SmithL

These lefties can't get over the fact that we are winning this war, and we're doing it without following their advice.


3 posted on 04/04/2005 7:41:14 AM PDT by Brilliant
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God, and this jacksass woman is my Congressperson.
I may barf.


4 posted on 04/04/2005 7:41:16 AM PDT by Right Cal Gal (Armed, Female and Southern!)
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To: CzarNicky

How many thousand troops do we have in South Korea, Japan, Germany ?


5 posted on 04/04/2005 7:41:52 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: SmithL

"The military draft, which coughed up its last conscript in 1973, could make a comeback if recruiting doesn't pick up and if America's commitments in Iraq and Afghanistan turn into long-term occupations or if the Bush administration's tough-minded foreign policy means military action in places like Iran or North Korea."

A military draft (after Bush promised it wouldn't happen in 2004) will put Hillary in the Oval Office.

There's no faster way to lose the "red state soccer mom" vote than drafting their 18yo sons.


6 posted on 04/04/2005 7:42:28 AM PDT by nj26
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To: SmithL
Two Questions:

1. Not a word of blame on the Clinton 50% reduction in our military

2. The experienced combat warfighters are getting $200,000 - $300,000 per year to do the same job in Iraq by private contractors (Blackwater, Triple Canopy, etc.). Maybe we need to rethink the value of the warfighter...
7 posted on 04/04/2005 7:43:57 AM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - They want to die for Islam, and we want to kill them.)
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To: Right Cal Gal
God, and this jacksass woman is my Congressperson.

Mine, too...though in my case, she's an impovement over the one I had before: the ghastly nitwit Lynne Woolsey. ;)

8 posted on 04/04/2005 7:44:15 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves
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To: SmithL

If we only had the 9 divisions that were eliminated under the Klintoon administration.


9 posted on 04/04/2005 7:46:22 AM PDT by Texas_Jarhead (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1366853/)
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To: Right Cal Gal

I miss Bill Baker.


10 posted on 04/04/2005 7:46:44 AM PDT by SmithL (Proud Submariner)
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To: SmithL

If they increased the pay for soldiers, they won't have a problem with recruiting. Heck, if the pay were better, my wife might not object so strongly to me going back in. The bennies and retirement plan used to be pretty good.


11 posted on 04/04/2005 7:47:15 AM PDT by Little Pig (Is it time for "Cowboys and Muslims" yet?)
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To: SmithL

Bring back the draft. I support that! :)


12 posted on 04/04/2005 7:47:17 AM PDT by cooper72
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I knew they must have a problem when an officer tried to convince me to reenlist a couple weeks ago. LOL


13 posted on 04/04/2005 7:48:22 AM PDT by AntiGuv (™)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

> How many thousand troops do we have in South Korea, Japan, Germany ?

How many in Bosnia?


14 posted on 04/04/2005 7:48:35 AM PDT by cloud8 (I don’t do carrots. --John Bolton)
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To: SmithL
The draft is going to be started in June this year.

At least that's what the Panel on Military Preparedness over at the DUmmie site were warning everyone just a month or two ago. See my tagline.

15 posted on 04/04/2005 7:51:44 AM PDT by Balding_Eagle (God has blessed Republicans with really stupid enemies.)
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To: 2banana

We have no problem paying connected unionists well over 100k a year.. and the endless numbers of government bureaucrats even much more then that..

Yet suddenly when it comes to paying the troops fighting on the frontlines, there is no money available.

If we paid 1 million active duty combat troops aka marines and army.. each 150k a year. That would cost 150 billion dollars.

Our federal budget this year was 2.6 trillion.. yet there is no money there for them?!


16 posted on 04/04/2005 7:51:57 AM PDT by ran15
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To: Right Cal Gal

Just be happy that you're not represented by Cynthia McKinney.


17 posted on 04/04/2005 7:55:07 AM PDT by quadrant
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To: cloud8

Probably more than we have in the Philippines.


18 posted on 04/04/2005 7:56:47 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: SmithL
Still have yet to see any reports of units undermanned, and I'm sure the MSM would be very quick to make those reports live on MSNBC, CNN and the front pages of the NY Times. There would be a special report on 60 (lost) Minutes about how x company is ten men short.

Training companies are bouncing people out left and right; I know of at least two Army boot classes that ended with less than 50% graduating. I'd think that the first place you'd find examples of undermanned units would be there - they'd do anything to graduate them on through boot.

But, of course, a draft is what the Democrats want.. Something to make political hay out of, video of soldiers who don't want to go, of civilians burning their draft cards, of people fleeing the nation. They desperately want to turn everything into Vietnam.

I have never seen a group of people work harder and longer towards failure than they have.
19 posted on 04/04/2005 8:04:07 AM PDT by kingu (What is union scale wage for staging a protest anyway?)
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To: SmithL
IMO, we should have a mandatory term of service (minimum 2 years) immediately after high school graduation or age 18 for those who can't seem to get through school. Training and
regimentation would force them to see the "real world" before going onto college or work. There they could discover that they have the aptitude/attitude to become
professional soldiers (or not). I know that at age 18 I had no direction and found myself volunteering for active duty in the Army. It changed my direction and it changed my life.
20 posted on 04/04/2005 8:11:02 AM PDT by MajorTom56 (Do it right the first time, every time)
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