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Experts: New Pope Unlikely to Be American
ABC News and AP ^ | April 3, 2005 | RICHARD N. OSTLING

Posted on 04/03/2005 6:56:32 AM PDT by bd476

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To: Grzegorz 246

That's interesting. It's hard for me to guess at this point.


61 posted on 04/03/2005 8:39:44 AM PDT by bd476
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To: AKSurprise; jocon307
"If your going by the prophecy then its going to be a Benedictine."

Well, the Jews were symbolized by an olive branch in the testaments, so I would think that the Jewish-born Cardinal Lustiger would satisfy the prophecy as well. Moreover, he's 78 years old which would fit the 'caretaker Pope' theory and since he's Cardinal of Paris he'd be a big thumb in the eye of the "superpower of the day" as well.. ;^)

Also, Cardinal Lustiger used to be ranked in the top of papabili lists when he was a bit younger, and his Jewish heritage would confirm the notion that the next Pope should continue the interfaith dialogues.

62 posted on 04/03/2005 8:40:25 AM PDT by AntiGuv (™)
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To: bd476

Well it seems there are many Gay priests and priests advance to Cardinals and a Cardnials may make pope, so what are the chances.


63 posted on 04/03/2005 8:41:02 AM PDT by Ibredd
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To: Great Prophet Zarquon
On the contrary, the Great Schism is remembered always as one of the most horrible experiences in the history of the Church

The Great Schism happened several hundred years before Philip and the Avignon captivity. You learned history in public schools, didn't you?

Nobody gives a flying hoot about the Templars anymore except the Masons.... which no Catholic can join to this day, incurring automatic excommunication for doing so.

I am not a Mason, nor am I "under their influence." The folks who called the Templars heretics and later made joining the Masons cause for automatic excommunication were serving interest's other than God's. They're the same folks who condemned Galileo and sold indulgences, stole from all and sundrie, ran brothels while they burned "heretics" at the stake (after gaining confessions under torture first, of course). Yep, I definitely think they were doing God's work and I should pay attention to the opinion of someone who follows their dictates /sarcasm

Evil is evil, whether perpetrated by Satlinists or the clergy. I do not condemn all priests for the freaks who infiltrated the Church in order to molest children. By the same token I do not ignore the fact that they committed great evil simply because theyare priests. That has been the problem with "defenders of the Church." They have felt that, in order to defend the Church, they must protect evil that has managed to insinuate itself into the Church. The defenders of the Church should be the ones leading the charge to ferret out evil, not protecting it and covering it up.

But all organizations run by men are subject to corruption, even if God calls them to do otherwise. The Israelites making the golden calf while Moses was on the mountain. Even Peter denied Christ. "All actions of an organization that claims to be devoted to God's work are to automatically be defended and adhrered to." That smacks of what the Ayatollah's use as their justification.

Right and wrong do matter. I'm sorry for those who "don't give a flying hoot." I think those who feel that way will have far more to answer for than someone who has joined the Masons, when the time comes. I have a feeling some standing witness against them will be wearing white surcoats with a large red cross on it, as well.

64 posted on 04/03/2005 8:45:11 AM PDT by Phsstpok ("When you don't know where you are, but you don't care, you're not lost, you're exploring.")
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To: AKSurprise

To find a 'serious' association with the Benedictine Order it will have to be a bishop rather than a cardinal, because even the Sarajevan Cardinal you mention has a minor connection at best.


66 posted on 04/03/2005 8:49:43 AM PDT by AntiGuv (™)
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To: AKSurprise
They're all listed here: Benedictines Consecrated Bishops.
69 posted on 04/03/2005 8:56:57 AM PDT by AntiGuv (™)
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To: bd476
Will be interesting to see if one of these is picked.


70 posted on 04/03/2005 9:01:09 AM PDT by texasbluebell
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To: beezdotcom

bump for later...


71 posted on 04/03/2005 9:02:49 AM PDT by beezdotcom (I'm usually either right or wrong...)
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To: texasbluebell

Very nice. Thanks.


73 posted on 04/03/2005 9:08:36 AM PDT by unkus
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To: texasbluebell

Cardinal Danneels is definitely the most liberal of the group, and would represent a sharp break with Pope John Paul II's legacy IMHO. I think his routine presence on such lists is more media wishful thinking than anything else. Cardinal Ratzinger is probably the most conservative by far, but maybe considered too old.


74 posted on 04/03/2005 9:09:54 AM PDT by AntiGuv (™)
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To: MeekOneGOP

If they want to keep it out of the hands of power, then France should fit the bill.


75 posted on 04/03/2005 9:28:20 AM PDT by Kate of Spice Island (When I was young we used to go "skinny dipping," now I just "chunkydunk.")
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To: AKSurprise; Gabz; All
NOt to try to be funny, but there is a Cardinal Scala.

If elected we will have Pope Scala. (Not sure of the exact spelling of his last name...)

77 posted on 04/03/2005 9:34:07 AM PDT by Kate of Spice Island (When I was young we used to go "skinny dipping," now I just "chunkydunk.")
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To: B Knotts
How does the fact that "most Americans are fluent only in English" have any bearing on any one particular individual who would be a candidate to the papacy?

JPII has demonstrated that his successors will have to be linguists. The only American cardinal who speaks a second language fluently is Mahoney, the language being Spanish.

78 posted on 04/03/2005 9:34:27 AM PDT by sinkspur (Be not afraid. Be not afraid.)
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To: Phsstpok
To this day the Catholic Church still pretends that this was all somehow OK and we should all just ignore this bizarre episode as having no importance.

Let's just say it was not the first Babylonian Captivity for God's people.

On the night he was arrested, Jesus's disciples all fled. The chief of them denied him three times. So long as the Church is composed of fallen men, there will be sin within it.

79 posted on 04/03/2005 9:34:30 AM PDT by The Iguana
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To: AntiGuv

Several of those on the graphic seem too old. The ones in their late 70s, unless this is to be an interim sort of Pontiff, would probably not work.

It will probably be a dark horse.

I heard talk on tv yesterday of a secret Chinese Cardinal.

Should be very interesting to see what transpires in the next few weeks.


80 posted on 04/03/2005 9:38:33 AM PDT by texasbluebell
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