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Experts: New Pope Unlikely to Be American
ABC News and AP ^ | April 3, 2005 | RICHARD N. OSTLING

Posted on 04/03/2005 6:56:32 AM PDT by bd476

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To: bd476
American Catholics have also been known to be pro-abortion, pro-homosexuality, pro-married clergy and pro-women priests.
The priest pederasty scandal was an American phenomenon, only recently (last 30 years) and was handled badly MOSTLY by American higher clergy -- the very ones who might be cardinals now.
To many Catholics the Vatican was just never modern enough, never did enough to help in WWII, was too full of old white men, blah, blah, always wrong, never measuring up, the same ole p.c. crap that filled our pages of news throughout the 60's, 70's 80's 90's and 00's.

The media certainly promoted the anti-Vaticanism of American Catholics but there didn't seem to be much in the way of counter-acting that anti-Vaticanism.
For too many American Catholics: No immediate, drastic reform = bad Vatican.
I read it for years.
Now we reap what we sowed.

John-Paul II just never did enough. We didn't know how good we had it with him. We won't see his likes again for a long time.

No disagreement with the article. Just adding my own thoughts.

41 posted on 04/03/2005 7:50:26 AM PDT by starfish923
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To: VeniVidiVici
flexible and pragmatic

Is that what it takes to be head of the Church?
Then why not get a Democrat? How 'bout Clinton? He would be flexible and pragmatic enough to change religions for the post. He's not busy these days. Lol.

42 posted on 04/03/2005 7:52:52 AM PDT by starfish923
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How 'bout Clinton? He would be flexible and pragmatic enough to change religions for the post. He's not busy these days. Lol.

Not busy?? Last I checked he's the junior Senator from New York..

43 posted on 04/03/2005 8:00:20 AM PDT by AntiGuv (™)
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To: Grzegorz 246
I'm also thinking from Central or South America. I was able to pick Illinois and North Carolina for the NCAA championship game, but this Papal thing is a bit more complicated.

Cordially,

44 posted on 04/03/2005 8:00:52 AM PDT by Diamond (Qui liberatio scelestus trucido inculpatus.)
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To: bd476
Even a pope's death, a pontiff held in affection more by those in the New World than Old Moldy Europe--even his death is an opportunity to bash and insult Americans.

This is highly offensive. It's not like we're applying for the job.

Never had any expectation of a US-born pope--but now I have expectations of an anti-American one.

45 posted on 04/03/2005 8:02:35 AM PDT by Mamzelle (and how do you like your blue-eyed boy, mr. death?)
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To: MeekOneGOP
They are on a strict schedule to pick a replacement, too, I believe.

Actually it is more of abiding by strict ritual. They will stay as along as it takes for them to elect a new Pontiff.

I think I heard FOX News say something like 2 weeks, or 15 days or thereabouts?

I believe the conclave begins in 10 days - following the official 9 days of mourning.

I could be wrong - consideirng it was 26 years since it has been done, so I may not be quite as up on the strictures as I once was.

46 posted on 04/03/2005 8:03:51 AM PDT by Gabz (John Paul II, pray for us.)
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To: A. Pole

That is very interesting. Have you seen any of this St. Malchy stuff on the threads the past few days? I think there are supposed to be two more now, but then some where saying the last "pope" would really be the anti-christ, but then others were disputing that.

How freaked out will you be if it's a black guy chosen?

I hope they don't pick an Italian, to me that would be boring. And, hey, let me say, I LOVE Italians!


48 posted on 04/03/2005 8:07:10 AM PDT by jocon307 (We can try to understand the New York Times effect on man)
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To: AKSurprise
Thanks for elaboration! I wish that one of them will be chosen. They experienced the prosecutions and would bring closer eastern churches and some needed revival.
Vinco would be pronounced Vintso in Slavic languages.
49 posted on 04/03/2005 8:07:11 AM PDT by Leo Carpathian (FReeeePeee!)
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To: AKSurprise; MeekOneGOP

Thank you...........I knew he had made changes to it, but wasn't sure of the exact details.

Apologies for my mistakes.


50 posted on 04/03/2005 8:09:25 AM PDT by Gabz (John Paul II, pray for us.)
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Thanks, y'all. :)

52 posted on 04/03/2005 8:12:59 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP (There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP!)
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To: bd476


Cardinal Francis Arinze of Nigeria is my personal favorite.



54 posted on 04/03/2005 8:15:35 AM PDT by onyx (Robert Frost "Good fences make good neighbors." Build the fence, Mr. President and Congress.)
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To: bd476

The fact that wimps like Stafford and George can be called "staunch conservatives" among the American Cardinals is one reason the Pope will not be an American.


55 posted on 04/03/2005 8:18:39 AM PDT by Arthur McGowan
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To: AKSurprise

"If your going by the prophecy then its going to be a Benedictine"

Now, this just occurred to me. I remember reading an article in the Newark Star-Ledger several years ago (maybe 5 or 6) about an African Bishop (maybe) who was considered a leading candidate for Pope, it may indeed have been that man Arinze but I can't remember. The reason the paper ran the story was because this Bishop had a long standing friendship with St. Benedict's Seminary in Newark. The reason I paid attention to any of it was because my boss had gone to St. Benedict's so the firm always gave them money.

Based on what I've read about those St. Malachy's predictions that would be as close as many of them come.


56 posted on 04/03/2005 8:18:40 AM PDT by jocon307 (We can try to understand the New York Times effect on man)
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To: bd476

Any truth to the rumor that John Kerry is having historian Brinkley rush a new book to print detailing Kerry's secret trip to Cambodia to mass convert the Khmer Rouge to Catholicism?


57 posted on 04/03/2005 8:25:59 AM PDT by Semper Paratus (-)
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To: Dog Gone

LOL! Zoooooom.


58 posted on 04/03/2005 8:36:45 AM PDT by bd476
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To: GreenHornet

LOL, that's easy to imagine!


59 posted on 04/03/2005 8:37:56 AM PDT by bd476
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To: onyx
Cardinal Francis Arinze of Nigeria is my personal favorite.

Hi, onyx. Then you and Michael Savage are in agreement, he said that on his radio program on Friday.

The next few weeks should be very interesting.

60 posted on 04/03/2005 8:38:41 AM PDT by texasbluebell
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