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1 posted on 04/02/2005 9:19:19 PM PST by CHARLITE
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To: ThreePuttinDude; JoJo Gunn; Ghost of Philip Marlowe; jan in Colorado; writer33; ...

Ping!


2 posted on 04/02/2005 9:22:07 PM PST by CHARLITE (Women are powerful; freedom is beautiful.........and STUPID IS FOREVER!)
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To: CHARLITE

I've come to the conclusion that well reasoned facts are not effective. The only reason HCI gets anything passed is fear mongering the lazy and ignorant. The pro-gun side should be scaring the ____ out of people. That might actually be effective and you can always fall back on the facts which HCI can't.


3 posted on 04/02/2005 9:25:20 PM PST by agitator (...And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark)
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To: CHARLITE

Let them come get mine.


5 posted on 04/02/2005 9:30:33 PM PST by Mad_Tom_Rackham (Florida: suppressio veri, suggestio falsi)
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To: CHARLITE; bang_list
"These people honestly seem to believe that making guns illegal (or at least close to it) will stop criminals from using them."

The author gives the anti-freedom crowd credit for honesty when no evidence for it exists.

L

6 posted on 04/02/2005 9:53:44 PM PST by Lurker (Remember the Beirut Bombing; 243 dead Marines. The House of Assad and Hezbollah did it..)
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excellent find, CHARLITE.

y'all: far better than par rebuttal of the hoplophobe's posturing.


7 posted on 04/02/2005 11:35:25 PM PST by King Prout (Remember John Adam!)
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To: CHARLITE

Gun grabbers are increasingly trying to separate the right to keep and bear arms from its constitutional underpinnings. To everyone but liberals and gun grabbers the word militia implies a body organized for military use. The Supreme Court Miller decision of 1939 held that the militia was 'A body of citizens enrolled for military discipline.' And further that ordinarily when called for service these men were expected to appear bearing arms supplied by themselves and of the kind in common use at the time."

To begin with, only the national government was represented at the trial. With nobody arguing to the contrary, the court followed standard court procedure and assumed that the law was constitutional until proven otherwise. If both sides were present, the outcome may have been much different.

However, since only one party showed up, the case will stand in the court records as is. As to the militia, Mr. Justice McReynolds related the beliefs of the Founding Fathers when commenting historically about the Second Amendment. He stated that, ". . .The common view was that adequate defense of country and laws could be secured through the militia- civilians primarily, soldiers on occasion.

"The significance attributed to the term Militia appears from the debates in the Convention, the history and legislation of Colonies and States, and the writings of approved commentators. These show plainly enough that the Militia comprised all males physically capable of acting in concert for the common defense.

It is clear that the firearms that are most suited for modern-day militia use are those semi automatic military pattern weapons that the yellow press calls "assault weapons". Since nations such as the Swiss trust their citizenry with true selective fire assault rifles, it seems to me that this country ought to be at least able to trust its law-abiding citizenry with the semi automatic version.

Self-defense is a vital corollary benefit of the constitutional right to keep and bear arms. But its primary constitutional reason for being is for service in the well-regulated militia which is necessary to the security of a free state. WE must be prepared to maintain that security against even our own forces that are responding to the orders of a tyrannical government, and the only viable way to counter a standing army's qualitative advantage is with a huge quantitative one. Don't let the gun grabbers and their politician allies separate us from the constitutional reason for the right to keep and bear arms. Miltary pattern weapons are precisly the weapons that should be MOST constitutionally protected. Even defenders of the right often neglect the constitutional aspect of it, and concentrate on their near non-existent use in crime.


If we don't constantly emphasize the constitutional reasons for the Second Amendment than we shall surely lose it, because hunting, while a worthy enterprise, is too trivial a reason to maintain it has a constitutional protection. We need to emphasize to our hunting bretheren that maintenance of the second amendment's constitutional rationale serves to protect their rights to continue to own firearms for hunting. The second amendment is literally the final check for the preservation of our republic from the depredations of untrammeled tyranny. We need to constantly remind the people what the militia in the 2nd amendment is REALLY for..... A citizen body organized for military purposes and by extension, logically equipped with weapons of military utility. Just consider that the founders of our nation had just finished defeating the greatest military power on the planet, thanks in no small part to a citizen militia, armed with military weapons such as the smooth bore Brown Bess musket, and often technologically superior rifled muskets. It is the height of absurdity to think that the second amendment in the Bill of Rights is primarily concerned with shooting bunny rabbits.

The second amendment is literally the final check for the preservation of our republic from the depredations of untrammeled tyranny.


13 posted on 04/04/2005 6:28:45 PM PDT by DMZFrank
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