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To: gogipper

"You are in denial. "

No, I'm not. Denial over what?


The nurses observe responses to different MUSIC, this is not reflexive."


It sure can be.


"Try and address what is written in this article instead of your feelings."


Ummm..I have. I don't think she deserved to be murdered, but I don't think she was gonna be singing 'God Bless America' anytime soon either.


103 posted on 04/02/2005 5:23:51 PM PST by Blzbba (Don't hate the player - hate the game!)
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To: Blzbba
Nurse Carla Iyers, backed up by the audio tape released by the Schindler family where Terri answers his questions yes or no as to where she was feeling pain:

erri’s medical condition was systematically distorted and misrepresented. When I worked with her, she was alert and oriented. Terri spoke on a regular basis while in my presence, saying such things as “mommy,” and “help me.” “Help me” was, in fact, one of her most frequent utterances. I heard her say it hundreds of times. Terri would try to say the word “pain” when she was in discomfort, but it came out more like “pay.” She didn’t say the “n” sound very well. During her menses she would indicate her discomfort by saying “pay” and moving her arms toward her lower abdominal area. Other ways that she would indicate that she was in pain included pursing her lips, grimacing, thrashing in bed, curling her toes or moving her legs around. She would let you know when she had a bowel movement by flipping up the covers and pulling on her diaper.

124 posted on 04/02/2005 5:49:39 PM PST by Ol' Sparky
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To: Blzbba

Denial over what?

You are responding to an article detailing a trained observer's report and you insist that it has no meaning. You deny its validity because it contradicts your world view rather than accept another scientific datapoint.


The nurses observe responses to different MUSIC, this is not reflexive."

It sure can be.

I studied neuroanatomy in graduate school. I do not recall my studies including a mechanism by which the brainstem could react to different musical patterns. I recall that only the cortex interprets auditory stimuli. http://www.medterms.com/script/main/art.asp?articlekey=20828 The auditory cortex is the temporal lobe, which the lower lobe of the cerebral hemisphere just forward of the occipital lobe.

Perhaps you have more current knowledge than I do. Perhaps you are a neuroanatomist or neurophysiologist. Perhaps you have some specific basal areas that you think could respond to different sonic frequencies? In that case "It sure can be" should be followed by something with a little more gravity.

Ummm..I have. I don't think she deserved to be murdered, but I don't think she was gonna be singing 'God Bless America' anytime soon either.

Umm...You didn't. You failed to respond to the factual statement of a trained nurse. Frankly your flippant response typifies the culture of death that we have been discussing.


233 posted on 04/03/2005 8:12:02 PM PDT by gogipper
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